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Car Craft featured a turbocharged 3rd gen in spokane

 
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BigDaddyVu
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Car Craft featured a turbocharged 3rd gen in spokane Reply with quote

well my friend got his car in car craft the low buck turbo charged firebird( hes the one was giving me ideas on turbo charging).
http://www.spokanespeed.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2132
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigDaddy, email me those pics and I can host them so people don't have to register.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks man. Thumbs up

That car looks great.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked

That car is pure awesome.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got the mag and it is very interesting story. i known the the guy for 10 years and even helped me tuned my T/A when i used to live near tims hot rod.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone have any idea as to what he used to control fuel?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a TT-TPI-TA Shocked nice
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aeromotive just like what i have
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeromotive doesn't seem to do any FMU stuff except for one. That one seems like all it does is manage superchargers.

http://www.aeromotiveinc.com/products.php?cat=4&catsub=0&prod=32
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the FMU will function the same for turbo's or supercharges, it raises the fuel pressure by a ratio to the boost pressure. Its an OK system, not ideal IMHO, but on a carbed setup, you don't have any choice but to run a blowthrough carb, and raise the pressure enough to fill the bowls.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that all you have to do? But that would only work with no-return fuel systems....

Wouldn't it be cheaper to get a rising fuel rate fuel pressure regulator instead?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you could just get an adjustable FMU from someone like Vortec. I dont' know the price on the aeromotive unit, so I can't say which would be cheaper.

Just for the record, I don't like the FMU being the only way to control fueling under boost. I would much rather have a computer capable of reading 2bar, so that you can have better control over timing and fueling under boost. If you go this route, all you can do is use the FMU, and then get something like the MSD BMT to pull timing based on boost levels.

For a blow-through carb setup, this is about your only option, but on a FI car, I would much rather do it the right way.

--John
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the msd boost timing only controls the retard on a lock out dizzy under boost. On the aeromotive fuel pressure reg it reads the boost signal to mantain a constand 5 to 7 psi of fuel over the boost for example on a non boosted carb or at idle on a boosted carb your psi runs around 5 to 7 psi now with an added boost lets say your running 10 psi of boost your fuel will be at 16 psi just to keep the fuel being pushed back into the tank and it is proportional to the psi levels and it does have a return it acts like an efi reg. the factory reg can't read boost cuz it can only read vacuum. Now the 2 bar map(turbo sunbird 4 banger) up to 15 psi of boost and/or (turbo T/A, typhoon,cyclone, and GN's family)3 bar map up to 44 psi of boost only senses boost for factory fuel curve and electronic timing on efi. don't get me wrong but efi does run more perfectly than a blow through setup.

If your curious how the system work check this forum out first. http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=b877af7a6e2e7086bf3dcaeb33eac4b7&topic=61219.0

I love this approach. I may have to try it out myself.
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