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jakemk8706
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: code 43... Reply with quote

i have been having problems today getting it to rev past 3000 rpm and when it gets close to that it feels like its hitting a wall and it backfires.

whats the best way about fixing this problem? im trying to sell the car and obviously i cant sell it without it running properly.

my scan tool thing that i have says it is the electronic spark control module or sensor. and when i called autozone/schucks/baxters they say their computers dont show any listings for that part...i need to get this straightened out asap.

any suggestions, or has anyone had this problem before?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it the icm in the dizzy you replace or this one? I've got an extra one if you wanna give it a shot, I was gettin 43 when I was in az and I just swapped it out, not a thing since. Its out of an 88 firebird I never tested it but I've just kinda collected parts over the years.

Also I've heard if you're using a high octane gas it will throw it as well, my dad wanted to drive my car when I was in ft jackson so he put 91 octane in with more octane booster to "freshen it up" too bad it causes predetonation lol

Hope you get it fixed

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya thats what the part store guys thought i was talking about. i have never replaced that but wasnt sure on buying it because i dont want to just guess on what i need to replace...how would i know if the actual knock sensor is bad or not?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BluFbdy wrote:
Isn't it the icm in the dizzy you replace or this one? I've got an extra one if you wanna give it a shot, I was gettin 43 when I was in az and I just swapped it out, not a thing since. Its out of an 88 firebird I never tested it but I've just kinda collected parts over the years.

Also I've heard if you're using a high octane gas it will throw it as well, my dad wanted to drive my car when I was in ft jackson so he put 91 octane in with more octane booster to "freshen it up" too bad it causes predetonation lol

Hope you get it fixed


High octane shouldn't cause it to detonate. You can runn 100 octane race gas, it just won't make as much power as 87 octane
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well im definitely not running high octane gas...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was just my experience with it, car ran pretty bad, kept throwing codes it was fine after I filled up with 87, anyway if you wanna give that a shot I could dig it out for you, its what like a 3 min deal to replace?

As far as the knock sensor goes I remember someone saying to unplug it and try to run it but that seems too simple maybe someone can chime in with a better answer

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: code 43... Reply with quote

rjmcgee wrote:
High octane shouldn't cause it to detonate. You can runn 100 octane race gas, it just won't make as much power as 87 octane


My guess is your Dad bought some sh!tty gas, or some real snake-oil octane boost. That stuff is crap anyhow; just kills oxygen sensors.

jakemk8706 wrote:
when i called autozone/schucks/baxters they say their computers dont show any listings for that part...


http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/1991-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28/Control-Module-Ignition/_/N-itef6Z9ci7x?filterByKeyWord=ignition+module&fromString=search

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MPI1/27031.oap?year=1991&make=Chevrolet&model=Camaro&vi=1035795&keyword=ignition+module&pt=02801&ppt=C0334

http://c2c.activant.com/ctoc/index.jsp?ID=cBS16GCw.CU50LyZ_CUdGM2JDUVM6ezwKU3E3BQAA

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the ignition control module. Did you put a boat ICM in there?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: code 43... Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
In the future you should probably keep calling back until you get a counter person with there head outside their asshole. Wink


Laughing

Good luck with that.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: code 43... Reply with quote

iansane wrote:
aaron_sK wrote:
In the future you should probably keep calling back until you get a counter person with there head outside their asshole. Wink


Laughing

Good luck with that.


Yo man, I'm just saying if some kid calls up and says his Chevy wont rev for beans and is throwing a code for a bad module, you should probably be able to look up a frigging Chevy module. #$%^&*
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no I mean good luck with finding parts guys that know remotely anything. Just like any job nowadays, they're getting hideously diluted with people that don't really care. Smile

And yes, I agree. It should be fairly easy.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so if i replace the icm and it doesnt fix my problem, i should then look at replacing the knock sensor?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: code 43... Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
iansane wrote:
aaron_sK wrote:
In the future you should probably keep calling back until you get a counter person with there head outside their asshole. Wink


Laughing

Good luck with that.


Yo man, I'm just saying if some kid calls up and says his Chevy wont rev for beans and is throwing a code for a bad module, you should probably be able to look up a frigging Chevy module. #$%^&*


Like Ian said; "Good luck with that." Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I had the icm tested at autozone and it came out good. So what now? Replace the knock sensor?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody wanna explain why having a module tested is about worthless?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression that, like bench testing a coil, it has something to do with the ambient temperature of an Autozone store, versus that of the interior of a distributor cap.

Of course that may just be the beer thinking for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya.. temp has a big thing to do with it. Also I'd say duration of the test.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey chevymad, I appreciate you making feel like an idiot, but I'm trying to find solutions to my problem. I thought this was a website dedicated to that. If I'm wrong please correct me.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey man, we're all trying to help you out here. If we're coming across as smartasses... that would probably be because we are smartasses. Squint

Buy a new module; a good one, not a Chinesium crap.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No kidding, don't buy a brown car. No no no...
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