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townaj
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Stupid Birthday Reply with quote

I turned 17 today, but its in no way a happy birthday. My car is stuck sitting. Again. I have been desperately searching for a new transmission, but to no avail. People just don't want to let go of their manual transmissions. So there it remains. All alone in the shop. Waiting for someone to take pity and let loose of their trans. So I'm asking you guys - what can I do? Both to cheer myself up AND get my poor car back on the road. This sucks lol
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick search of the Portland/'Couve CL turned up this guy:

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/1540428545.html

V6 T5 though.
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townaj
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thanks for your efforts but theres 2 problems lol. 1) I don't think a v6 tranny could hold up to a 383 and 2)I'm not in that area any more Crying or Very sad I'm down in stupid Texas. If only there were people like that guy down here. Then I'd be set.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe... you need to update your profile. It still says you live in Battle Ground next to your name.

How close is this guy to you?

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/pts/1538258041.html
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townaj
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww nuts lol I'll update it then.

He's damn close cus I live in La Vernia but that trans won't work. I have a 2 piece rear main seal and a mech speedo. If I'm not mistaken the 86's had a 1 piece rear main and electronic speedo. But I'm not 100% sure on that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happened to the T5?

You could go through it and you can get parts very easily...

I can get all new parts :O)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if he has a 383 a t-5 is not going to last long...my very mild 350 chewed up 3rd gear and broke the c-clip holding 5th gear on the shaft...your best option is to either pick up a t56...or go the route i did...and get a tremec tko600 its a good trans will hold up to the power...although if i had to choose again and i had the money i would of got a built tremec t56 but it was to much and i had to get car fixed for a 1500mile drive so i had no option...another option is you can pick up a automatic trans for awhile till you find a manual that will work for you...this is the problem about ppl building motors up on our cars...you really need to make sure the drive train can handle the power...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any transmission will grenade with enough power in front of it. Ive seen plenty of the fabled T56 and tko600 get chewed to pieces in front of engines that they should have held that and more. Depends on the driver also.

U have a t-5 that needs gone thru? Just go thru that and toss it in there until you get something else that will be a little bit better.

If you have enough power chewing transmissions is just a fact of life.

I have been seeing transmission as like tires haha they run, get burned out, and get rebuilt only to do it all over again the next season Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

izcain wrote:
Ive seen plenty of the fabled T56 and tko600 get chewed to pieces in front of engines that they should have held that and more.


^ The truth ^

I broke my T56 in front of my 240 horse L98. When I sold that thing it had no reverse, and first and third were on their way out.

That said, considering Monday was his 17th birthday, I don't think any transmission will have too much of a life in his car. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

izcain wrote:
Ive seen plenty of the fabled T56 and tko600 get chewed to pieces in front of engines that they should have held that and more. Depends on the driver also.


Explains why Ian has blown up his T56 so many times behind a 305! Laughing Hey, come to think of it I own that engine now! Very Happy

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Twilightoptics
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T56s have a few known week points. Once those are taken care of they are stout.

Hense my 330RWHP motor launching 4k RPM breaking 10 bolt axles, and twisting 31 spline 9" axles, and twisting drivelines... and the trans still drives like a dream.

Typically unlss you're doing alot of clutch drops, the 10 bolt rear is weaker than a fresh T5. Our cars don't really hook up well enough without rubber to warrent a swap from a 10 bolt and T5 to something else... with under 300hp.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I don't have a t5 yet. I have a 700r4. I need a manual trans of some sort because I don't like autos so building up my 700 would be a waste of money. If I had a manual then I would definitely rebuild it. What are some of those weak spots?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weak points on the t5 definitely the casing...and also the forks...and 3rd gear

i know a trans can break...just saying a properly built one has a better chance of surviving then just throwing a junkyard trans into a car that has far more power then its capable of handling...and your right it does depend on the driver...my tko 600 been treating me fine...i wasnt talking about a stock t56 though...i was referring to a built one...another reason some ppl go threw so many trans...is because they do not properly break them in...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about on the t56?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3-4 Shift fork replace the aluminum one with Steel.

1-2 and 3-4 syncho keys (dogs) replace with billet

1-2 and 3-4 Nylon plastic shift pads replace with Bronze

Set end play to .000 rather than the specified .002


That's all I did to mine. I replaced the 2-6 synchros when I was in mine also since they were worn.



The next step is to step up to the 32 spline Viper Mainshaft... which is spendy cause you need the shaft, and the tail, and I don't know if it fits in our cars cause it moves the shifter forward a bit.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres a couple of good sources for ya

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/148_0405_tough_t56_transmission/index.html

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/tech/0703gm_t56_transmission_rebuild/index.html

or the totally unnecessary for you transmission...this thing cost like 4-5 grand maybe more...but its rated to handle 1200hp lol

http://www.rsgear.com/transzilla.asp

theres other ones out there...but just thought id post a few links help ya get an idea...

if your really considering a tko 600 these guys are great...very friendly and very helpful when it comes to any problems...

http://www.5speedtransmissions.com/5_speed.html
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'm not sure yet. Damn. I wish i could find a t5 to fit for a while but there aren't any around here.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you check the junkyards?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I checked all the yards a while ago. Got nothin. But today i went to the speed shop i bought my stroker kit from and they gave me a number of a guy who might have one. He didn't have it, but he said to call his cousin cus he might. So i called him and he has a freshly rebuilt one for 650 bucks. Out of an 86 camaro. So tomorrow hopefully I can go check it out. But it has no shifter or bellhousing. But at least I've made some progress. Yay.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow all those posts and not a single Happy birthday!

Smile

~JAKE <-- also in texas Cool

you should look up Austinthirdgen.org we are a group just north of you and have a few members in the San Antonio area.

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