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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: Nitto Tires |
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So what i have been told is that the Nitto NT555 Extrmem tires are the best way to go, so i looked at them on nitto's website and i compared them to the INVO's and the invo's look way better for washingtons wet weather but i was gonna as how is the tread wear measured? the nt555's treadwear is 400 and the invo is 260 what does that mean?
The invo's are a little more expensive but a quieter, and handle better in the wet, has anyone used the invo before? |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| The treadwear number is a percentage. The government had a tire that lasted a certain time on their wear machine. They called that 100. The nitto lasts 4x longer on the machine, while the invo lasts 2.6x longer. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Wait... in your other poll topic, the Nitto's got no votes, so you decided to narrow your choices down to only their tires?  |
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flea Member

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1246 Location: Raymond WA
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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well thats how I choose movies to watch...
Yentl was critically acclaimed. I wouldn't be caught dead seeing that bit'o chick flick trash.
Xanadu was trashed in the reviews but what the heck it stars Olivia Newton John
I suddenly got a hankerin for some chicken. |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| well i noticed that on the poll kumho and falken had more votes so i did more research and i guess they arent verry good, compared to the nitto ones i just dont know if i should get the NT555 or the Invo |
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GREG DAVIDSON Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 1159 Location: Salem
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| it's all about personal opinion and use of tires to me i've used kumho tires have never had any problems but thats me i know theres a few other members from another post that have had problems |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Based soley on the limited and often hard to compare information of the tire ratings, the Invo will be a better performing tire, but won't last nearly as long. a 260 treadwear isn't that bad for a performance tire, but the trade off with sticky tires, is tread life.
And comparing brands is really hard. What you have to do is try to compare very specific model's of each tire. You didn't even specify which particular model of the Falken's you were looking at. Without that peice of information it makes it very hard to make any sort of informed choice.
Not to jump on you, just saying, there are several models of Ziex tires, that rate from M+S rated tires, to an OK all-season performance tire. But, none of them are Falkens compition for the Nitto, especialy the Invo, the Invo would compete with tires like the FK-452 that I have, or probably even closer to the RT-615. Since the RT-615 has a 200 treadwear, and the Invo has a 260. The RT-615 is a crazy sticky tire. Lots of guys run it as a auto-x tire because it is so sticky. If you are going to compare tires, you really have to compare apples to apples.
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:11 am Post subject: |
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My buddy just put the INVO on his GTO. Amazingly far ahead of the stocker; but that's to be expected. It looks like a nice tire, and they're non-directional! _________________
| Quote: | | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| iansane wrote: | | My buddy just put the INVO on his GTO. Amazingly far ahead of the stocker; but that's to be expected. It looks like a nice tire, and they're non-directional! |
Does this mean Alex has gotten the GTO any closer to the road? Last time I talked to him he was spending more time messing around with it than you are messing around with the Bird.  |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Oh dude, it's cruising around in grand Monaro fashion. You haven't seen it? I mean, it stills has key marks down all sides and F*** you written in the hood but that'll only be 'till we move over off Jackson ave.
And on that note, Alex thinks he found out who did it. I'm not a violent person at all but defacing someones pride infested possession like that deserve something cruel. I hope I never see this guy.
Bah, I'm agitated just thinking about it. I'm going to do the exhaust on my car.
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Woah, that's retarded. Welcome to Tacompton I guess...
Is he still over at 6th ave. Blatozone? I haven't seen him there in awhile. |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| well i think i might go with the invo, cause its very wet in washington and i think i would rather have the really sticky ones than the summer nt555's, but they are more expensive. |
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iansane Member

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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | Is he still over at 6th ave. Blatozone? I haven't seen him there in awhile. |
Yup, Vatozone for awhile anyway. Strange, he's there almost everyday! |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm... I'll have to go over and smack him for selling me some POS battery cables for the Merc. Broke coming off on me the other day.
Back on topic: I know I've made a few disparaging comments about Kumho wet traction on here before, however after putting nearly an entire season (including a lot of unexpected snow driving ) I have a much better opinion of them.
They hook up very well dry, can be pushed hard through corners, and are surprisingly usable in snow and on ice. $71 on Tirerack if you're getting rims, or $89 at Discount if you're staying stock. |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | Hmm... I'll have to go over and smack him for selling me some POS battery cables for the Merc. Broke coming off on me the other day.
Back on topic: I know I've made a few disparaging comments about Kumho wet traction on here before, however after putting nearly an entire season (including a lot of unexpected snow driving ) I have a much better opinion of them.
They hook up very well dry, can be pushed hard through corners, and are surprisingly usable in snow and on ice. $71 on Tirerack if you're getting rims, or $89 at Discount if you're staying stock. |
The Kumhos I have mounted on my stock 15" wheels did very well in the snow this past winter (is it over yet?? ). They are the Solus HP4, which is a mud & snow tire. The Kumhos (Ecsta AST) I have on the car with the new wheels are actually pretty poor in the snow, but pretty good in all other weather. _________________ 92 Camaro
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | Hmm... I'll have to go over and smack him for selling me some POS battery cables for the Merc. Broke coming off on me the other day.
Back on topic: I know I've made a few disparaging comments about Kumho wet traction on here before, however after putting nearly an entire season (including a lot of unexpected snow driving ) I have a much better opinion of them.
They hook up very well dry, can be pushed hard through corners, and are surprisingly usable in snow and on ice. $71 on Tirerack if you're getting rims, or $89 at Discount if you're staying stock. |
which kuhmo's are those? are they the ecsta's? |
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aaron_sK Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| AST's, same as what Al is running. |
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GREG DAVIDSON Member

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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| i've ran the ecsta's before and had no major issues |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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about how long have they lasted?? i read some reviews saying they wear really fast also people are talking about weak sidewalls...you guys have any problems with that?
the SPT is only 8 dollars more per tire and according to the reviews is better than the ast's but there are still some reviews that make me hesitate on buying them
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| What are you looking for from the tire? Descent tread life, maximum grip? |
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