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9-bolt Borg Warner, how to tell if Posi?

 
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Magman
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: 9-bolt Borg Warner, how to tell if Posi? Reply with quote

How do I determine if a 9-bolt rear is Posi or not? This is unfamiliar territory for me. I can pop the cover tomorrow and post a pic of what it looks like inside, but I'm unsure of what I should be looking for? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best way it to just turn one axle and see which way the other axle turns.

Same direction = working posi

Opposite directions = non posi/worn out posi
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Paul says on the 9bolt. Now if it was a 10 bolt you'd have to worry about the Zexel/torsens which act like a non posi.
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Magman
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, thanks. I'll give that a shot and see what happens.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lucky for you almost all of the 9 bolt rears are "performance" optioned with at least an ok gear ratio, and posi. most are 3.27:1 or 3.40(ish):1.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm never seen anything but 3.27 and 3.70s
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3.70.. I knew it was something big. my mistake on the 3.40ish.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twilightoptics wrote:
Hmm never seen anything but 3.27 and 3.70s


9 bolt ratios

2.77
3.27
3.45
3.70

I have to check the ratio on the 9 bolt in this this 87 GTA I have. As long as it has a 3 series carrier I'm gonna rebuild it with a set of 3.73's for my car. I think Mike as proved the 9 bolt is a good upgrade over the 10 bolt.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that's what everyone says. The 9-bolt is superior. I had no luck turning one side of this one tonight though. The right brake seems to be locked up. I'll have to take the brakes off to check it out. The left side turns freely while the right is locked up by the brake.

I also read the 9-bolts have different axles, 26 spline before 88 and 28 splines after. This rear wasn't stock though, it has "87 Camaro" written on it in yellow marker. Typical marker used in wrecking yards Sad

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you can turn one wheel freely while the other is locked up, then its not a posi, at least not a working one.

What kind of brakes? are they the aluminum PBR's?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, non-PBR. This things a paper weight... 2.77 gears, non PBR, unitrack, it doesn't have anything going for it!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ew.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pull it apart and take a look at the posi cones to see if they are completely worn out or if it possible to shim
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I was thinking of pulling it apart to see what it's made of. Plan to keep the shims as spares for the 3.45 9-bolt I have waiting to be rebuilt. More and more projects just keep piling up...
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