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fiveoformula
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Hookers on the way Reply with quote

Headers that is Very Happy I went with the 2055HKR's.

You guys have any tips or horror stories about header installation?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Removing the manifolds was the tough part for me, especially with the heat shield in the way and covering some of the bolts. I have the Edelbrock TES and the driver side went in pretty easy from the top, but I still had to put some of the bolts in from the bottom. Passenger side had to go in from the bottom, I had to remove the starter to make room and all the bolts were installed from the bottom, I also broke my fan switch with this one. I still haven't replaced the accessory brackets that had to come off to do the install.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you only had to remove the starter on the passenger side?
The instructions say you may have to jack up the engine a little bit...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool keep me informed on how this goes you have bout the same exact car as mine are Thumbs up
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same headers, John and I bought them on a package deal.

The right head exhaust manifold uses the very last exhaust manifold bolt. The one you will use it there right by it and it's tapped and ready to go. (you will understand what I mean when you get into this) But...........it's got years and years worth of rust and crud in that bolt hole. Do yourself a big favor, get a 3/8" x 18 tap and chase all the exhaust manifold bolts on the heads after pulling the stock manifolds off. Makes the job much easier.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks for the advice, Ill pick one up.
Anything you would suggest to prep the manifold bolts to come off?
Any penatrant or something?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveoformula wrote:
Hey thanks for the advice, Ill pick one up.
Anything you would suggest to prep the manifold bolts to come off?
Any penatrant or something?


Yeah. Night before working on it, go hit all the bolts with penetrating oil. Especially the bolts that connect to the exhaust pipe!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awsome, thats what I was thinkin! Thanks! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better yet, do it two nights in a row! I've broken off more manifold bolts than I care to talk about. Don't forget to spray the y-pipe to manifold connection either and hit them with a small wire brush where you can. Work them off, if you feel them getting tighter, run them back in, then out again. Broken manifold bolts suck...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heck, I might do it every night leading to the swap! Im iching to get these things on!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Derek...good to see you got the headers.

To get the exhaust bolts off go ahead and use a torch and get the bolt nice and hot. Should come right off. That's what I did. Penetrate doesn't do a whole lot.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be cool...
If I could get my hands on a torch, I dunno if I have enough room on the passenger side to get a torch in there.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pencil torch is pretty narrow. Try one of those.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry about torching it. They'll break off before you'd need to worry about a torch. Torch em if they were going to be re-used and you don't want to deal with broken bolts. Since you're replacing the manifolds, sometimes it's easier to break the bolt off!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the bolt doesn't come loose after penatrating oil I'd let the engine warm up to operating temp and then try it again. Sometimes the little heat makes exhaust work much easier.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
If the bolt doesn't come loose after penatrating oil I'd let the engine warm up to operating temp and then try it again. Sometimes the little heat makes exhaust work much easier.


Shocked just be sure to watch the fingers. sounds like a recipe for a burn!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Yikes! I could see doing that for the bolts on the Y-pipe but I dunno about the manifolds, sounds pretty risky.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working exhaust hot isn't as bad as it sounds. Just use a wrench and a rag and you'll be fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there goin on tomarrow!
So im expecting to possibly remove the starter, i'll need a 3/8x18' tap to chase threads, a lil heat, and alot of swearing. Rolling Eyes
Any other last minute advice?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd use a thread chaser rather than a tap. personally there's less chance of screwing up the threads... i live in SE portland like 15 minutes from aloha if you need to borrow one, or need a hand. i've done headers on a few cars.
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