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		| Nathan J Member
 
 
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 1986  Pontiac  Firebird
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: need some ideas guys |   |  
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				| ok im getting ready to rip this firebird all apart here in a week or so, i got the 2.8 and the 5 speed sold and im about ready to  drop the 383 in and the th350. But since im going carb, what all wiring can i rip out? its a basic car no options. anyideas would be cool. also has anyone ever put aftermarket gauges in a third gen firebird? looks like a camaro would be easy. and anyone have anypics of that? Thanks guys Nathan
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 86 firebird
 383sbc
 th350 t brake
 4th gen rear soon 9in ford rear
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		| Dewey316 The Lama
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Are you going to retain the computer to control the timing, or are you going with a mechanical dizzy? |  | 
	
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		| Nathan J Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| no im usen a msd dizzy and a 7al to run that. its just a nitrous 383 no computer at all. _________________
 86 firebird
 383sbc
 th350 t brake
 4th gen rear soon 9in ford rear
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		| Xophertony Rodeo Queen
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| if there is no computer you can remove any and all sesor wires under the hood that are not for guages, or power accessorys (lights, horn, wipers etc...) is this a street legal driver or a race only application? are you keeping your interior? we need more info? are you doing any other engine bay clearing modifications? |  | 
	
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		| Nathan J Member
 
 
 Joined: 24 Dec 2005
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 Location: spokane
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| its pretty much a race car that im going to limp around on the street in, it will have most of the int, but i want to figure out how to put aftermarket gauges in, it will have all lights, heater. no ps or ac. just the bone stuff to keep it dot legal. it will have a 8 point cage. and the heater and all that stuff might come out later. just need to get it down to what is really only needed. Nathan
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 86 firebird
 383sbc
 th350 t brake
 4th gen rear soon 9in ford rear
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		| 82camaro383 12sec Club
 
  
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 1985  Chevrolet  Camaro Z/28
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I am also doing the same thing with my car. I want to take out the computer also, but i wasn't sure if the gauges would work without it. What exactly does the computer do? _________________
 85 Z28, 383 Stroker, TH350 tranny, Richmond 4.10 gears, dual exhaust
 Fastest Time: 12.7sec @ 107mph
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		| aaron_sK Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Even if you don't have a single sensor in the engine, doesn't the computer control the lockup speed via the VSS? |  | 
	
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		| Nathan J Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| my car had a t5 trans, but i am putting in my th350 with a trans brake in the car. so it has no lock up. so pretty much do i just need to strip the org wiring harness apart and pick apart the crap i dont need or should i just rip it all out and rewire it all for the engine? and just keep the wires going to the head lights and all that. i have to do a bit of wiring anyway but i hate doing wiring stuff lol. Nathan
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 86 firebird
 383sbc
 th350 t brake
 4th gen rear soon 9in ford rear
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		| aaron_sK Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well, if you're going to gut it for weight reduction anyway, it might actually be easier than picking apart the harnesses. It will depend alot on how bare-bones you're going to run it: 
 
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		| iansane Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The body harness and computer harness were pretty well mingled in my old 87. It took a little bit of choice cutting to get down to just the computer harness. Have a wiring diagram? Just pick a wire, trace and cut as neccesary.  |  | 
	
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		| Xophertony Rodeo Queen
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:19 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| what are you doing with the t5? 
 i want it.
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		| Nathan J Member
 
 
 Joined: 24 Dec 2005
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 Location: spokane
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| i kinda like how that metal dash looks lol, i striped my old g body all the way down jus trying to think if i want to do the same with the bird and the t5 might already be sold not shur yet if the guy with the engine wants it or not. Nathan
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 86 firebird
 383sbc
 th350 t brake
 4th gen rear soon 9in ford rear
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		| BigDaddyVu 12sec Club
 
  
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 Location: Spokane, Wa
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| i could tell you what wires to hack out. _________________
 
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