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miamivice
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:26 am    Post subject: OMG look what they did!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reply with quote


they come undid it all and left, what the hell do i do Confused Confused Confused Confused
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Xophertony
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

who did what now... tyhieves took apart your engines. friends.. what.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ja wtf mate?
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Schultzy89GTA
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a handful of bolts to re-assemble that. What is going on here Farshin?

Throw us a frickin' bone here, we're the crew, need the info.



-Schultzy

edit: I'm a little worried about the drill.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well,im talkin to him now,i guess they stripped 2 bolts off for the thermostat.

damn fish Evil or Very Mad
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Xophertony
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fish?

complete thoughts here people. and who the hell is "they"?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

miamivice wrote:
they come undid it all and left, what the hell do i do Confused Confused Confused Confused


I have only one answer. Buy lots of beer and pizza, and call on your crewbie buddies to come help you put it back together again Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some spackling and napalm should fix her right up.
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miamivice
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

84transam383 wrote:
well,im talkin to him now,i guess they stripped 2 bolts off for the thermostat.

damn fish Evil or Very Mad


heh, yeah the bolts broke....stupid 20 minute job turned into a multi hour/day thing. think the dude before me or some mechanic put thread locker on the bolts or something Confused

iansane was up here yesterday and we got tried and left it like that. i thought he would chime in on this w/ all the pics he took...guess he hasnt been online. hes coming back up today, hopefully it will be done. if not, well there might be a problem, as in how to get to school and work on monday Crying or Very sad
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Twilightoptics
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was it that you were trying to accomplish here?
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miamivice
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well we were trying to accomplish alot of things actualy, but now it looks like all we are trying to accomplish is getting it running again Rolling Eyes
actually we were trying to put a nwe thermostat in, and the 2 bolts broke.

im sure ian can post up w/ the more specific details
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like time for stuff to break!

Might remember I posted about not getting heat in my car.... turned out both hoses acted as return lines so there was no circulation... the heater core was empty basically.

Well it must have corroded, because now that I get heat.... the core is leaking!

DOH!
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miamivice
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

now look what they left me w/

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who is they?

If it's Ian who is doing you a favor and giving you a hand then stop your bitching. Sh*t happens when you start working on 20 year old cars.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rjmcgee wrote:
Who is they?

If it's Ian who is doing you a favor and giving you a hand then stop your bitching. Sh*t happens when you start working on 20 year old cars.


I'm with stupid
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iansane
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'm trying to help him out. It doesn't seem to be going our way very much. But I everythings getting back on track now. I just really irked me that BOTH freaking bolts snapped off in the manifold. We tried to drill them out with a small bit and then clean up the threads but as soon as we drilled the pilot hole it didn't seem like it was going to work. As we went up bigger in bit sizes the hole just kept moving farther and farther out so a quarter of it is in the manifold and the rest is where it should be in the hole. While trying to clean those threads up I broke my tap handle so I couldn't even clean the threads up in the head. I've had to use an adjustable wrench.

It's really screwing us that we keep having to work on it after I get off work because all the stores are closed.

Luckily though I've got two other TPI base manifolds at my house so I just grabbed one of those and I'll just trade for the swiss cheesed one and call it good. I wouldn't feel right about leaving him with a half assed manifold that I wasn't sure was going to seal for quite a while.

Top it all off, the water at my house is shut off because my dad found a leak someplace in the garage.

I think the dyno curse just missed it's flight and is hitting me right now. Laughing

Side note: There is a TON of crusty black almost carbon build up in the coolant passages that I've been noticing while scraping the old gasket off the heads. I haven't seen that kind of thing before, Ideas?

On the bright side, fish's mechanic said that he'd have to do this later on because it was supposidly leaking and it would've costed him $900. Well, with a tune up (plugs, wires, caps rotor, o2 sensors) I think we haven't even hit a third of that including gaskets and such.

And I found that only the Schuck's big warehouse store carries the upper plenum gasket, which is right near my place, but that's not what I want to hear when I'm ~50 miles north up at Fish's place. Laughing
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Schultzy89GTA
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuff happens man. We have fun with things like 'dyno curse' but the more experience you get the more you realize that problems are the rule rather than the exception. One of the advantages to having a network of people that work on these cars (aka the 'crew', not to mention a few ASE cert members) is that you have a broader base of experience to draw upon when it comes to actually fixing what WILL go wrong.

Nice of you to help a crewbie out.

The intake manifold is off, take a deep breath... breath out... ahhhh. No big deal. You'll get'r'done.

-Schultzy
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miamivice
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iansane wrote:
There is a TON of crusty black almost carbon build up in the coolant passages that I've been noticing while scraping the old gasket off the heads. I haven't seen that kind of thing before, Ideas?


pics of this on the drivers side:

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chevymad
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That center port isnt a coolant passage. That's the exhaust crossover. All the carbon is just built up from oil/fuel. Give it a seafoam or water treatment when your done to clean that all out.. then "go blow the carbon out of her" Wink
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miamivice
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

another night, STILL not done. keep running into problems...problems that really shouldnt be problems. stupid old car Rolling Eyes

here is kind of what stopped us tonight:
http://thirdgen.org/techbb2/showthread.php?s=&threadid=346424

too tired to go out there and take some pics of where we are at, hopefully it will be done tomorrow, DURING THE DAY!!!!

im sure Ian will chime in tomorrow when he gets up w/ more details.
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