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miamivice Member

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 450 Location: Seattle, WA
1982 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:26 am Post subject: OMG look what they did!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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they come undid it all and left, what the hell do i do  |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| who did what now... tyhieves took apart your engines. friends.. what. |
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LB985IROC Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 478 Location: issaquah, wa
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:12 am Post subject: |
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ja wtf mate? _________________ Cadillac of Bellevue
Retail parts sales
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Just a handful of bolts to re-assemble that. What is going on here Farshin?
Throw us a frickin' bone here, we're the crew, need the info.
-Schultzy
edit: I'm a little worried about the drill. _________________ Red Sled: 89 GTA, 383, TKO, N2O
12.73 @ 109.39, 1.793 60 \ 11.794 @ 121.16, 1.62 60 (old combo) |
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84transam383 Banned
Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 431 Location: bend, or
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: |
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well,im talkin to him now,i guess they stripped 2 bolts off for the thermostat.
damn fish  |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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fish?
complete thoughts here people. and who the hell is "they"? |
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alloy T56 Elitist

Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 1716 Location: Vancouver, WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| miamivice wrote: | they come undid it all and left, what the hell do i do  |
I have only one answer. Buy lots of beer and pizza, and call on your crewbie buddies to come help you put it back together again  |
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85 T/A WS6 Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 539 Location: Buckley
1985 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Some spackling and napalm should fix her right up. _________________
1985 Trans Am Recaro Option (AS5)
67,000 miles 5.0 TPI Hi Flow MAF
TPI Airfoil w/Bypass Flowmaster WS6 (.92g)
3:27 Borg Warner Posi K&N Filtration |
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miamivice Member

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 450 Location: Seattle, WA
1982 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| 84transam383 wrote: | well,im talkin to him now,i guess they stripped 2 bolts off for the thermostat.
damn fish  |
heh, yeah the bolts broke....stupid 20 minute job turned into a multi hour/day thing. think the dude before me or some mechanic put thread locker on the bolts or something
iansane was up here yesterday and we got tried and left it like that. i thought he would chime in on this w/ all the pics he took...guess he hasnt been online. hes coming back up today, hopefully it will be done. if not, well there might be a problem, as in how to get to school and work on monday  |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| What was it that you were trying to accomplish here? |
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miamivice Member

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 450 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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well we were trying to accomplish alot of things actualy, but now it looks like all we are trying to accomplish is getting it running again
actually we were trying to put a nwe thermostat in, and the 2 bolts broke.
im sure ian can post up w/ the more specific details |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like time for stuff to break!
Might remember I posted about not getting heat in my car.... turned out both hoses acted as return lines so there was no circulation... the heater core was empty basically.
Well it must have corroded, because now that I get heat.... the core is leaking!
DOH! |
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miamivice Member

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 450 Location: Seattle, WA
1982 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:28 am Post subject: |
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now look what they left me w/ 
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rjmcgee The Hammer

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2328
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Who is they?
If it's Ian who is doing you a favor and giving you a hand then stop your bitching. Sh*t happens when you start working on 20 year old cars. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| rjmcgee wrote: | Who is they?
If it's Ian who is doing you a favor and giving you a hand then stop your bitching. Sh*t happens when you start working on 20 year old cars. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I'm trying to help him out. It doesn't seem to be going our way very much. But I everythings getting back on track now. I just really irked me that BOTH freaking bolts snapped off in the manifold. We tried to drill them out with a small bit and then clean up the threads but as soon as we drilled the pilot hole it didn't seem like it was going to work. As we went up bigger in bit sizes the hole just kept moving farther and farther out so a quarter of it is in the manifold and the rest is where it should be in the hole. While trying to clean those threads up I broke my tap handle so I couldn't even clean the threads up in the head. I've had to use an adjustable wrench.
It's really screwing us that we keep having to work on it after I get off work because all the stores are closed.
Luckily though I've got two other TPI base manifolds at my house so I just grabbed one of those and I'll just trade for the swiss cheesed one and call it good. I wouldn't feel right about leaving him with a half assed manifold that I wasn't sure was going to seal for quite a while.
Top it all off, the water at my house is shut off because my dad found a leak someplace in the garage.
I think the dyno curse just missed it's flight and is hitting me right now.
Side note: There is a TON of crusty black almost carbon build up in the coolant passages that I've been noticing while scraping the old gasket off the heads. I haven't seen that kind of thing before, Ideas?
On the bright side, fish's mechanic said that he'd have to do this later on because it was supposidly leaking and it would've costed him $900. Well, with a tune up (plugs, wires, caps rotor, o2 sensors) I think we haven't even hit a third of that including gaskets and such.
And I found that only the Schuck's big warehouse store carries the upper plenum gasket, which is right near my place, but that's not what I want to hear when I'm ~50 miles north up at Fish's place.  |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Stuff happens man. We have fun with things like 'dyno curse' but the more experience you get the more you realize that problems are the rule rather than the exception. One of the advantages to having a network of people that work on these cars (aka the 'crew', not to mention a few ASE cert members) is that you have a broader base of experience to draw upon when it comes to actually fixing what WILL go wrong.
Nice of you to help a crewbie out.
The intake manifold is off, take a deep breath... breath out... ahhhh. No big deal. You'll get'r'done.
-Schultzy |
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miamivice Member

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 450 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| iansane wrote: | There is a TON of crusty black almost carbon build up in the coolant passages that I've been noticing while scraping the old gasket off the heads. I haven't seen that kind of thing before, Ideas?
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pics of this on the drivers side:
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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That center port isnt a coolant passage. That's the exhaust crossover. All the carbon is just built up from oil/fuel. Give it a seafoam or water treatment when your done to clean that all out.. then "go blow the carbon out of her"  |
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miamivice Member

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 450 Location: Seattle, WA
1982 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:32 am Post subject: |
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another night, STILL not done. keep running into problems...problems that really shouldnt be problems. stupid old car
here is kind of what stopped us tonight:
http://thirdgen.org/techbb2/showthread.php?s=&threadid=346424
too tired to go out there and take some pics of where we are at, hopefully it will be done tomorrow, DURING THE DAY!!!!
im sure Ian will chime in tomorrow when he gets up w/ more details. |
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