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jchaussee
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:27 pm    Post subject: 454? Reply with quote

What is needed to make it work?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

money,'


i put as much effort into this as you did asking
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I mean, if I have motor will I have to redo tyranny, rear, and suspention. And all my typing is on phone, so I try to be brief
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That tyranny upgrade is the worst...

Travis will expound on this but you will need a new trans (and appropriate crossmember), new motor mounts, might have to clearance firewall in some places.

All of this so you can have a 250 horse smogger truck motor in a car that's already overweight.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya. Perhaps not worth it. I was also thinking small block 400. What trans for that? Turbo 350?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jchaussee wrote:
Ya. Perhaps not worth it. I was also thinking small block 400. What trans for that? Turbo 350?


Anything that bolts up to a regular SBC will bolt up to a 400, as by definition it is also a regular SBC.

Still, smogger 400 would be more trouble than it's worth IMHO. Hard to find, and odd water jacket design.

If you're convinced you need more power and want it as cheap as possible, there are two basic options in my mind. Pump some nitrous through your 305 or do a cheapo swap to a carb'ed Vortec head 350 with a cam from a junkyard truck or van.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya. I maybe just go with tge vortec heads an manifold on top of my 327.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

383 stroker Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya. I'm poor. Though I did see a complete L36 1969 for 600.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jchaussee wrote:
I did see a complete L36 1969 for 600.


Somebody's selling you a line there bud. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Castiing numberbs seem to be right on block. I didn't check heads. But is already bored 30 over and he says needs another bore, so don't know about that.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm? What??? 454 big block?? Easy peasy! Stock small block engine mounts, single electric fan, v8 radiator, and a 700r4 or th400 and the driveline to match. Get the log style cast manifolds. Hardest part is the 454 pan is huge so get the chevelle 4quart. Other than the exhaust, everything is easy. Even with a smog cam, 260hp 360tq at the wheel.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
Stock small block engine mounts


Well I'll be damned. Learn something every day. Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the extra length of the big block goes forward of the bellhousing. I had to take the dizzy cap off when I installed it but the HEI cap fits with no firewall mods. The window wiper motor has to be removed during installation too but it fits fine afterwards with a stock height cover. I have some tall covers that won't fit unless I move or reclock the wiper motor. Lemon makes a long tube header but it's around $800. The stock cast manifolds fit just fine. And if you use a T56, ture duals is the best way to go.

Over all a simple swap unless you want to run fuel injection.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya. I don't know. The 600 l36 is looking good but I am curious at how much it could be bored out safely
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L36 went quick. So back to 454. 260 to the rear doesn't sound so bad. Torque though. Can my rear handle it? No funny jokes please.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And canvyou tell me a little more about making stock manifolds work. May be route to go for now
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trick to making a 10-bolt last with lots of power:

NEVER. HOOK. UP. Burnout
As long as that's ^^^^ all you're doing it should last just fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So as long as I don't hook upvwith myvrearend itll last? That's Lifetime wisdome there.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jchaussee wrote:
Can my rear handle it? No funny jokes please.


jchaussee wrote:
So as long as I don't hook upvwith myvrearend itll last? That's Lifetime wisdome there.


Tappy tap tap

Breaking your own rule there bub. We're all supposed to be MRAs here. (Mature Responsible Adults)

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