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Xophertony
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Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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 Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: i hate my T-tops !!!! |
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well, i feel at this point that i have done EVERYTHING i can possably do to stop the leaking. i am left with no choice but to seal them to the car permanently with silicone. i can always scrape it off come summer, and re-do it come winter. here is what i have done in order:
NEW seal all around. adjusted t-tops for fitment. fit snugly now.
Re-sealed new seals all around with outdoor silicone. seals now attached to the car real well. still sealed factory style.
RE-RE-sealed t-top seals. now the seal is sealed to the car not allowing ANY water behind it. also ran a bead along the inside top edge of the t-bar.
covered seals in vasalene, hoping it would seal the seals to the t-tops. found out vasalene goes away after a few days of rain.
covered seals in dilectric silicone (never dries like vasalene) including the "corners" where the top meets the window (belived to be source of leaks)
STILL LEAKS. in fact since i added the dilectric silicone it seems to leak MORE. i have reached witts end. if anyone has any idea's i can try i will gladly accept suggestions.
i am giving the car a few days to dry out (it's parked under my carport) and then if no one has any ideas that can help i am going to COVER the seams in silicone caulk. please help me, i don't want to do this... i realy don't. 
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izcain
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1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Where exactly does the water come from? Have you pinpointed where it is leaking from yet?
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kurfbird
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Location: Whidbey Island
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:25 am Post subject: TGO has directionsz to fix the leaks. |
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TGO has directions to fix the leaks. You actually have to remove the black T bar thing and seal that also
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izcain
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1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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The t-bar gets rippled and sometimes needs to be straightened
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Xophertony
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1988 Pontiac GTA
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: TGO has directionsz to fix the leaks. |
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| kurfbird wrote: | | TGO has directions to fix the leaks. You actually have to remove the black T bar thing and seal that also |
i have done this. it is sealed to the car as well, so no watter can get in around it. i realy did what i felt was an amazing job sealing up my car. too bad it was not.
i am going to try one more round of the dilectric silicone before i put them on permanent. |
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Quasi-Traction
"I have petals"
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: i hate my T-tops !!!! |
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| Xophertony wrote: |
.... i have reached witts end. if anyone has any idea's i can try i will gladly accept suggestions. |
Get a Hardtop car!! 
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Xophertony
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1988 Pontiac GTA
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: i hate my T-tops !!!! |
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| Quasi-Traction wrote: |
Get a Hardtop car!! |
CHECK  this is exactly why I was so quick to purchase my GTA.
anyway, i just realised where i tyhink some of the wqater has been coming from. the seal that seals the glass on the t-top to the plastic bit at the end (the one that always gets oxidised) is looking a little weak on my car. so i used my remaining silicone to seal it up and rus some all the way around the t-top on the driver side. i am now out of silicone and off to napa to purchase more.
hopefully this will work. then all i will have to do is whipe all this nasty stuff off when the weather gets sunny again.  |
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83Z28BlackBetty
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Location: Aloha
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: i hate my T-tops !!!! |
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| Quasi-Traction wrote: | | Xophertony wrote: |
.... i have reached witts end. if anyone has any idea's i can try i will gladly accept suggestions. |
Get a Hardtop car!! |
besides there is nothing sexier than the smooth lines over the roof. that and more rigidity (for those of us without sfc's)
~JAKE
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BigDaddyVu
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Location: Spokane, Wa
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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i got a hard top wanna trade
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Xophertony
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1988 Pontiac GTA
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:34 am Post subject: |
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SOLVED i am happy to say. well mostly solved. only tested in light rain so far. but leak free after two hours of mild percipitation. all it took was 12$ worth of dilectric silicone and a rubber glove  |
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RSFreak
The other "John"
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Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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One of the main selling points for me when I got my RS was the fact that it is a hardtop. I've had several T-top 3rdgens and they all leaked!
Incidentaly, we heavily, and I mean HEAVILY, siliconed the t-tops to the roof on turbo_jimi's '85 Z28 and it still leaks!
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Xophertony
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| put a bead around the T-bar. some let water in where it meets the body. |
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