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turbo_jimi Member

Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 1206 Location: Tacoma
1985 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject: Vapor Canister Removal |
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I'd like to do this as part of my emmisions removal project. Step by step intructions would be greatly appreciated.
TJ _________________
1985 Z28 Crate 350, Hurst T-5, 3.23s, Flowmaster Under previous set-up: 143.82 rwhp 216.98 lbs. torque @4390 rpms 3/12/11 |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Unplug it all, and plug any holes!
Only thing I never understood, was what to do with the vapor line coming from the fuel tank? |
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turbo_jimi Member

Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 1206 Location: Tacoma
1985 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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I might try to simply cut it off and plug it as close to the tank as possible...lol I've been plugging and capping alot of holes lately on that car...lol Thanks for the info.
TJ _________________
1985 Z28 Crate 350, Hurst T-5, 3.23s, Flowmaster Under previous set-up: 143.82 rwhp 216.98 lbs. torque @4390 rpms 3/12/11 |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| You cant plug the line to the tank. Tank has to be vented or you'll suck a vacuum and stall the car. I left mine open but kept smelling fumes.. so i connected it to my bowl vent on my carb.. For you efi guys thats basically just venting it into the air filter housing. |
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turbo_jimi Member

Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 1206 Location: Tacoma
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I'll go with plan B and vent it into the carb somehow...lol.
TJ _________________
1985 Z28 Crate 350, Hurst T-5, 3.23s, Flowmaster Under previous set-up: 143.82 rwhp 216.98 lbs. torque @4390 rpms 3/12/11 |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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So, vent it to the intake tube somewhere?
If the cansiter vapor line is for "venting," what's the 4th line from the tank for, that has some sort of check valve that's right next to the tank itself? |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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No idea. Maybe it is a vent and the canister only vents high pressure vapor. Which means you still have to vent it somewhere or on hot days your tank will swell up like a balloon.
Yes, just vent into the intake tract somewhere. Not where theres much vacuum though just filtered to atmosphere basically. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| That should be easy when I get the cold air and filter over to that side. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| How could you hook it to a aftermarket intake tubing and not get a lot of vacuum...? I'd like to ditch the canister as well... |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | | what's the 4th line from the tank for, that has some sort of check valve that's right next to the tank itself? |
Lets think about this.
1) Fuel feed
2) Fuel Return
3) Line to evap canister
4) to keep vacume out, would have to be some sort of vent tube, that allows air into the gas tank. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Maybe just remove the check valve then, and make it a both way tank?
Do we NEED pressured tanks? Vacuum really doesn't happen until it hits the throttle body and plenum, after the throttle blades. It's all ambient air before the blades, afterward is where the engine is sucking. Think of the blades as a straw, that you're sucking through.
Sure there is some pull on the air before in an intact tract.... don't know that it's enough. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| dewey316/Twilightoptics wrote: | what's the 4th line from the tank for, that has some sort of check valve that's right next to the tank itself?
4) to keep vacume out, would have to be some sort of vent tube, that allows air into the gas tank. |
correct!
i have had the vent line plugged unter the hood for a while now (on the six)... i notice on veeerrry hot days when i open the gas cap i get some hissing... no other troubles..
IF you remove the check valve and allow two way venting that close to the tank you could concievably dump raw fuel out of it under heavy braking. i would not remove that check valve. the best system aside from venting to intake/carb would be to put a small airfilter on the end of the vent line under the hood. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I get hissing with that vent tube still hooked up. |
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