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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ahh... I see the problem. I assumed that the oil was run through side tanks on the rad line a tranny cooler, not running coolant through the oil pump.
Edit: Tony, there was a lot of stuff done to the car by previous owners. Most of it was done pretty well. I think they were planning on a dedicated drag car, seeing as it has a 3.73 BW swapped in, and a built TH700-R4. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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should i pull the "cooler" off my engine? i don't like the idea of my oil being restricted.
plus then i could run the bigger filter and not worry about clearence around my headers. or is that just a problem with V6s with headers? |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| If you arent changing motors or something, I wouldnt remove the oil cooler just cause. The only reason we didnt put Mike's back on was because it was clear full of metal debris from when the L98 gave up. There's no way to completely clean that stuff out, so if we'd used it some of the metal would have ended up in the new engine. The cost of a new oil cooler wasnt worth the benefit. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| How does a cooler restrict filter size anyway? It's hard to tell without mine being all there, but it looks like the pipes would come off the front side, and swing out of the way. |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| The cooler adds a few inches to the length. It can make the filter hang lower then the oil pan sump. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Is the sump going to be at the very bottom of the pan? Right now the filter I have on it is equal to the bottom of the oil pan. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| are you not suposed to have your filter lower then your pan? |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Xophertony wrote: | | are you not suposed to have your filter lower then your pan? |
I'd rather hit a bump and dent my pan, than rip my filter off so my engine runs out of oil! |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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both of our exhausts hange alot lower then our oil filters
that is a damn good reason though.  |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, anything tall enough to take out that filter would also take out the Y-pipe and probably a good chunk of the oil pan. However I'm still worried about it being lower than the sump, which I didn't even think of when I installed it. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| My pipe doesn't hang down much lower than my oil pan. And my oil pan is dented. |
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alloy T56 Elitist

Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 1716 Location: Vancouver, WA
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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I've been running the long 2 quart filter for several years now and have hit my y-pipe several times but no dents on the filter at all.
I'd also suggest that anyone changing the oil on our type of cars with a vertically mounted filter pre-fill the filter completely with new oil. Especially if running the 2 quart unit like I am. 2 quarts is a lot of oil to pump before the engine gets any oil after a filter change. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| alloy wrote: | | I'd also suggest that anyone changing the oil on our type of cars with a vertically mounted filter pre-fill the filter completely with new oil. Especially if running the 2 quart unit like I am. 2 quarts is a lot of oil to pump before the engine gets any oil after a filter change. |
Good advice. On my second oil change ever (when I worked at a local repair station) one of the other techs told me that, been doing it ever since. _________________
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | | My pipe doesn't hang down much lower than my oil pan. And my oil pan is dented. |
The Y-pipe on my car is a wierd little fab-job. Coming off the drivers side header it's actually about an inch lower than the crossmember. Then it swings up and joins with the passenger side header. |
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Kage87Z Member

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 436 Location: 12 Second Club
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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On my stroker, I have a high pressure, high volume oil pump. It's typically pegged ALL the time.
Have you changed the sending unit? I personally, wouldn't worry about it. But then, I didn't think gold was going back up to 700 an ounce, either. _________________ "Are you guys ready? Let's roll."
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Nah, I'm not gonna bother with it. I know those guages are typically crap, but as long as it's not overly high or low, screw it. Cold oil level is dead on with the larger filter, so I'm happy with it till something else breaks.
Now I need to find out what's sucking down all the gas. Mileage is actually still dropping, down to around 10 mpg. |
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Kage87Z Member

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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| lol.... Google "oil filter study" and you'll end up with several hundred of those. That's the most refferenced/mirrored one though. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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