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rjmcgee
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| QwkTrip wrote: | If you say, "handling" then you should think strongly about a 4th gen. By starting with a 4th gen you'll have less money into the car overall and it will handle better then anything you can do to that 3rd gen.
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QwkTrip
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Location: Peoria, IL
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Rod, you and I aren't the next in line to be national champions so I'm not sure it matters what we drive. 
One thing about living in the midwest is I meet a lot of car guys at my work place. I know an autocross national champion, three driving instructors, and several others that race competitively. It just blows their mind that I'm keeping the 3rd gen and selling the 4th gen. |
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Alphius
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1984 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Xophertony wrote: | another thing to consider is how pig ugly 4th gens are.  |
It's easier to make a thirdgen fast than it is to make a fourthgen look good.
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iansane
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Location: Bothell
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| QwkTrip wrote: | | One thing about living in the midwest is I meet a lot of car guys at my work place. I know an autocross national champion, three driving instructors, and several others that race competitively. It just blows their mind that I'm keeping the 3rd gen and selling the 4th gen. |
That kind of comment surprises me. When it comes down to actually effort, it doesn't take any more work to make a thirdgen handle well vs a fourthgen (relatively speaking). Their handling flaws are just different. And you already have a great chassis to start with it seems logical to use it. About the only pros fourthgens have over thirdgens is the obviously better motor factory and the greater chance of the car not being clapped out since they're all newer. And I'm not just saying this because I love thirdgens more than fourthgens, I can appreciate a great handling car no matter what it is. |
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d00012
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Location: Granite Falls
2007 Pontiac GTA
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Xophertony wrote: | | another thing to consider is how pig ugly 4th gens are. |
I love my 4th gen 
| QwkTrip wrote: | | Then you and I are traveling the same road, my friend! We can share stories when it is all done. |
That we will have to do.
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Quasi-Traction
"I have petals"
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1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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until my clutch hydro's went out, I loved the reliability of my 4th gen, actually, I still do. :)
I still dig my 3rd gen though. There are a few things that need to get sorted out (like bigger brakes, an electric choke, and how to keep the alt/wp/crank belt from tossing out over hard throttle blasts).
And the interior is WAAAY nicer than my 4th gen. |
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QwkTrip
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Location: Peoria, IL
1989 Pontiac Firebird
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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I just put 4th gen seats and console in my car to fix that problem. 
Frankly, I like the dash in my Firebird. I really dig the gauge pods. |
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Xophertony
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Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Amen to that. love the birdie dash. |
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RSFreak
The other "John"
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Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Xophertony wrote: | | Amen to that. love the birdie dash. |
Probably my favorite thing about my 'Bird! 
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