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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:55 pm Post subject: Massive oil leak |
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My T/A has a massive leak that I can't locate. It is somewhere on the back of the engine. My first thought was a leak between the intake manifold and the china wall. But there was oil on top of the manifold at the distributor so I figured it was the dizzy gasket. Replaced the gasket and it still leaks. It will go though a quart of oil per day at least. That seems like alot to be coming from the intake manifold. Is there anywhere that pressurized oil could be coming from? I don't wanna pull the intake if I don't have to. _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
'85 Camaro Berlinetta - IROC clone
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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We just had a post about this lol
Oil pressure sending unit behind the dizzy. If yours is located above the oil filter, it's possible your plug is leaking but very doubtful. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Funny you should mention that. When we first got the engine in the T/A the first time I turned it over oil came gushing out all over the driveway. Turns out Ian had taken the oil pressure sending unit before selling me the engine. We put a pipe plug in the hole sealed with teflon tape. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Thoroughly clean the area and run it without driving. Use a mirror, whatever, to see if it's coming from the dizzy or china or that plug.
Or a valve cover gasket  _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I've used that green dye with good results in the past. I may give that a try too.  |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| John, I put a pipe plug in the lower port (by the pump) on that motor. I never touched the upper one. Buck says thats where your leak is. |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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haha this reminds me of when that happened to me, thought the intake manifold was leaking so i pulled it off just to figure i was missing an oil pressure sending unit  _________________
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 12:45 am Post subject: |
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I'd be really surprised if that upper port was the culprit. I seem to remember trying to put my autometer sending unit in that little port and I couldn't get the square head plug out of the block and eventually gave up. But, I have never had the best memory. _________________
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| iansane wrote: | | I'd be really surprised if that upper port was the culprit. I seem to remember trying to put my autometer sending unit in that little port and I couldn't get the square head plug out of the block and eventually gave up. But, I have never had the best memory. |
Yup, that is where it is leaking from. And yes, there is evidence that you attempted to remove the plug.  _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Totally busted.  |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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That damn thing wouldn't come out for nuthin'! We used penetrating oil, heat, and the candle wax trick all to no avail. Even with the dizzy out it was very difficult to get a wrench back there. We managed to mangle the crap out of the plug too.  _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 12:46 am Post subject: |
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I have a welder..... _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | | I have a welder..... |
Good to know! I figured that was gonna be the next option. I actually have a welder too, I just don't know how to use it! But hey, if you're down to do some welding, let me know when! _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Use a magnet and make sure that plug isn't brass.
You'll need the dizzy out. Are you guys sure that's the culprit? _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | | Are you guys sure that's the culprit? |
Maybe it's just me but if I couldn't get it out years ago, and you guys are having a hell of a time getting it out now why do you think it's leaking? |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| iansane wrote: | | Twilightoptics wrote: | | Are you guys sure that's the culprit? |
Maybe it's just me but if I couldn't get it out years ago, and you guys are having a hell of a time getting it out now why do you think it's leaking? |
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rjmcgee The Hammer

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2328
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Pull distributor, clean up area as much as possible, move anything that will move out of the way. Get a oil priming tool and prime engine with a drill. If it's the plug in the sender hole it should start to leak pretty quick. If the plug doesnt leak then move on. I'm betting china wall, and I don't think that will leak when using the priming tool. It will need to be running for the china wall to leak. |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Got the dye. Put it in the oil. Ran the car. Oil was seeping out past the plug. Pulled the dizzy. Had no luck removing the plug.
We were thinking the same thing. Oil was able to get past the plug, but we couldn't get it out. We were using a magnetic pointer when trying to identify where the oil was coming from and it stuck to the plug. _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Can you post a picture of this dye? I need to get some for my oil leak. |
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BluFbdy Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 915 Location: Port Orchard WA
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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IIRC I had a hell of a time getting that,out as well, thats where my oil pressure sending unit is tied into, I had to use a special tool to get it out _________________ If you expect a kick to the balls and get a slap to the face its still a victory
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