Cascade Crew

izcain · Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject: Engine Revamp

Well I think it may be time for another reincarnation for the Z powerplant

Engine is starting to have a rear main leak and the leak down test is giving me a little bit of the "You better reseal me" blues
Actually looking at taking out the 383 and changing bearings and rings (changing to hellfires) and putting it back together with a LOT better solid roller camshaft and valve train! I am starting to give up on the idea of trying to make a 9.9X pass on a hydraulic flat tappet........ I only had .49 more to go though dang it!

I will be posting pics as soon as I get the bug to tear it out (after Christmas has died down a bit!)

Just gotta make sure to have the car up and running before season now that there is no excuses not to travel with this nice truck and trailer in the driveway.

I should be able to up the kit to the 250 mark that way but my other idea is to change over all internals and go for the larger hit 250+ I am thinking though that this will cause mains to start walking around.

Based on a 3550 race weight with my fat behind in it a rough guesstimate is that the car makes around 600-10 ish just want to move it up a notch so that it will run a consistent 9.90 or so

Just thought I would let everyone know what im cookin up in the garage for this next season!

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:47 pm Post subject:

Nice. Keep us posted man.

-Schultzy

RSFreak · Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject:

Sweet! I wanna see your car run at the track again! Cool

blue89 · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:35 am Post subject:

Any way to reduce the weight? 3550 seems a little much. Might as well have a big block. Wink

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:23 pm Post subject:

3550 sounds great to me Sad

-Schultzy

91RSVert · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:24 pm Post subject:

I'm with Travis. What all have you done to give the car a diet?

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:28 pm Post subject:

Don't get me wrong, I am all ears. It's just that mine weighs in 300lbs more than that. Big girl Wink

-Schultzy

91RSVert · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:32 pm Post subject:

His is an 83?? So it should have the alumn front bumper already.
:edit: aftermarket glass hood

Lets see what else.

Schultzy, since yours is 89, it likely has a steel front bumper. But since your a bird, I dunno how much diff the bumper is. But I know the 82/83 birds also came with alumn. The camaros, the bumper swap is easy. Very Happy

iansane · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject:

Dewey316 · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject:

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject:

Ok, in fairness, that was with me in it. Without me she weighs in about 3200 lbs.

Very Happy

-Schultzy

iansane · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:37 pm Post subject:

Whoa. A 550lb Schultz. You been eating a lot since I've seen you? Very Happy

izcain · Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject:

Well actual weight is 3350 which gives away how much extra fat is getting hauled around haha Embarassed

Car has the impact bumpers in the front and rear removed and the bracing has been shaved down to just two sections that hold the park lights under the fascia car has a glass hood and removed all interior panels and seats in the rear. carpet is still there.

Gotta remember most of you guys dont have a full cage either though! that was a lot of extra weight!

I actually should reweigh the car now that I think about it because I have since changed alot of suspension components and rims and tires so it I really have no clue lol

Last time I weighed the car was with what was listed above but with the heavier tires and rims as well as stock suspension.

Maybe 3200 is a more acurate weight........ I will find a scale and let you guys know.

91RSVert · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:02 am Post subject:

I agree the cage is throwing our minds outta wack.

I'm sure I'm about to list a few things your going to say "duh" about, but just ideas.

1. I'm sure the ac is gone, what about box on the wall, and ducting behind dash?
2. guessing you decided to keep carpet for a reason. But remove the padding on the back. What about trunk carpet?
3. What about dash pad? on 91/92 that thing is metal supported and heavy!
4. Knee panel under steering column? Again, 91/92 its metal lined.
5. Are wipers needed in your class?
6. What about the plexiglass headlight covers. Its added weight, but may help the wind flow over the lights rather then be a wind drag.
7. Was reading this weekend how much "moon caps" can save mpg on semis due to wind drag. May look at them for the rear tires if you can keep the on at 100+mph?
8. remove rear deck spoiler. 7lbs of doesnt do jack crap.

Then I think it may be time to look into the lexan back glass if your class suports it.

izcain · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:19 am Post subject:

91RSVert · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:19 am Post subject:

I thought this was an all out drag car and never used on the street.

As for the moon caps, I think they may just snap on like hubcaps? But wonder if the air pressures would pop them off at 100+.

Anyway, just tossing ideas out.

izcain · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject:

Yea the car up until recently has been a street driven ride (summer time) but the faster it has been going the harder it is to keep it on the street without having other issues. I will always drive it on the street once in a while that is a given though even without a heater Very Happy

It is just fun to pull up to the local cruise in and they know the car is capable of deep tens

Yea I forget but I think that slicks grow like 1 inch for every 100 miles and hour or something like that I for get the rule of thumb.

IROCDave · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:58 pm Post subject:

Must be difficult to decide between street driving and pure dragstrip performance.

Have you looked into more cubes? If your planning for a larger shot you would be looking into a new rotating assembly also, shouldnt cost much more to add displacement?

izcain · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject:

Nitrous or boost is a great equalizer.

388 or 393 is about the max your gonna get without getting into heat spotting issues with the ol 010 block and the 393 has a crappy rod to stroke ratio for what im doing. Thought about going for a 400 and going 434 but that would be expensive and the blocks are weaker.

If I can get it to 9.xx I think I Will leave it alone for awhile (just perform the normal freshen ups) which should be obtainable with only minor changes to the current combo.

blue89 · Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:16 pm Post subject:

How much does a cage weight? I've never had one so I have no clue. I keep playing with the idea but the added weight just kills me. And once you cage it, can you remove interior structures like inner roof supports? I think you can gut the doors if you have side impact bars, please correct me if I'm wrong. I know doors weight a ton!

3350 isn't too bad at all. I'd say your doing good.