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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:44 am    Post subject: im having a headlight issue.... Reply with quote

ok so been workin on my halo project, got it all hooked up with H4 halos are wired to parking lights and all is good except one thing....when the low beams are on the high beams are barely on, just enought to make the filament orange and it looks like they are turn signals, i cant find out why they wont go off.... also the hi beams were flickering on my way home, but i replaced the relay that i have my headlights wired too so that should be okay now, i just cant get the high beams to turn off when they are supposed to... any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would check your wiring again. It sounds like you have something getting power when it shouldn't. I would start by checking to make sure you have the right pins connected to the right wires when you converted to the H4 pin's from the factory.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i already checked the pins and they are all were they should be in order to have the hi/lows work at the right time, cause to change to H4 all you have to do is switch the tan wire with the green wire
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

91camaro_rs wrote:
cause to change to H4 all you have to do is switch the tan wire with the green wire


Queue?

For starters, you need to get your headlight power out of the fusebox, and onto a relay. Then do something like this:

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

headlights are already on a relay, and i changed out the relay i had, and put a brand new one in... and im only using one, but my wiring looks really similar to that... so somehow the high beams have a tiny bit of power when they are not supposed to
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need two relays. One low and one high. How do you have it wired with only one?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no idea but it works, i guess ill check all my wiring and then try a second relay. . . when i had the halos in the first time like a year and a half ago this didnt happen...

ill take some pics tomorrow to put up so i can show what i got goin on

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a bad ground/cross feed problem to me.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

91camaro_rs wrote:
i already checked the pins and they are all were they should be in order to have the hi/lows work at the right time, cause to change to H4 all you have to do is switch the tan wire with the green wire


It's not two wires that are changed, you need to re-clock the whole connector, or move all the pins over one.




Here's a picture of how they are different.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Hasse wrote:
common on Ford Probes, Chevy S10s, and other vehicles not intended to be driven at night.


Whoops. Guess I've been screwing up driving single-lamp dual-beam cars at night then. Tappy tap tap
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey now, when did I write that? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wrote it via GIF background trickery. Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess that's what I get for not reading the entire article "borrowed" from other sources Embarassed Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok im just gettin confused now, im gonna go take some pics and we'll go from there

ok so my low beams look like this looking from the FRONT of the car ( high beams look the same just without the tan wire...

left= black wire
top = tan wires
right= green wires ....or just look at this pic lol

driver side low beam lookin from front of car, black wire is there but the shadow from the flash makes it look invisible
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high beam:
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Passenger side low beam from rear of car
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the relay:
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wires that i spliced that go to the relay
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and this is what the high beams are doing when they are supposed to be off
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hopefully this helps clear stuff up

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just went and made sure all the connections were good and they were and the hi beams still come on
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From your pictures, I think you need to switch the green and black wires. The diagram I posted shows the back of the light, not the front of the connector. Switch the green and black and you should be OK, that's how mine are wired. I repinned all 3 wires, not just the brown and green ones.

Not that it matters now, but the inner pair should have the wires switched also, then if you could jump the unused connector to the green wire, you'll be amazed at how bright your high beams are. Or just get a hi/lo headlight socket from NAPA or Auto Zone and switch the black and green wire from how they are now, then connect the green one also to the 3rd spot.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like they're running the relay for the highs only. No no no...

When I rewired the Monterey I ran new 14ga wire from relays to the lights, and powered the relays with 18ga fusible links off the battery distribution bar.

The lights were original FoMoCo sealed beams (had the old-school Ford stamp on them and everything). They are incredibly bright now. Way better than any other vehicle I have ever owned. Personally I think that the wiring has way more of an impact than the bulbs or lights.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
Looks like they're running the relay for the highs only. No no no...


I'm with stupid

I don't know why I didn't pick that up too. Should be a relay just like that for the low beams also.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't tell, but you can do it with one relay. Some relays have both a normally closed and normally opened circuit. So if you hook dims to one, and brights to the other it will switch back and forth. So it is possible.. but not likely lol.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chevymad wrote:
Can't tell, but you can do it with one relay. Some relays have both a normally closed and normally opened circuit. So if you hook dims to one, and brights to the other it will switch back and forth. So it is possible.. but not likely lol.



I think the way the headlight circuit works, going that way, the 87A (normally open) pin would have battery power with the switch off. I need to look into it a little and check it out though.
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