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cameron7710 · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:35 am Post subject: what do u guys think?

iv been lookin at some cars on craigslist for my friend whos lookin to buy a car and iv found a 87 camaro Lt that the guy says has a 350 with a turbo 350 trans and i just what to know is there any way to check that its not just a 305 the guys trying to pass as a 350. also the car is a Lt with 160,000 miles ,t-tops, pwer windows and locks and everything and it dosnet seem to have eny problems and the guy wants 2000 for it u guys think its a goods deal? cause i was thinkin probley ofer a bit less

83Z28BlackBetty · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:54 am Post subject:

well first of all, they never made a third gen "lt camaro" so right off the bad i say the guy is full of shizzle.

To make sure its not a 305 you need to look at the casting numbers on the block because there is no way to tell from the outside. The casting number should be on the top behind the intake manifold. its pretty much wedged in between the back of the engine and the firewall. You'll need a flash light to see it.

A turbo 350 is a 3 speed automatic. so it should only have drive, 2 and, 1 as options. rather the typical 700 R4 has D, 3, 2 and, 1.

when you get the casting number from the block go to www.mortec.com and search for it. it will tell you everything you want to know.

Just don't be like me, pay triple what its worth for a piece of crap camaro from a total lying scumbag.
~JAKE
~JAKE

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Quasi-Traction · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:12 pm Post subject:

flea · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject:

According to iroczone, http://www.iroczone.com/specs/camaro/camaro87.html there were LT's built for the 87 model year, but they had either the 173 CID V6 or the 305 CID V8, and only 794 built with an RPO code of B4E. so take a close look at the RPO. also it appears that the only trans available was the 700r4 or manual with either the 173 or 305.

Not too sure how accurate that info is, but I'll take it at face value.
As to the 305 vs 350 question its probably a 305 but the guy assumes that if its a camaro it must be a 350. I have people ask me from time to time what motor i have, answer 305, reply oh no it must be a 350...
I wouldn't assume he's trying to pull a fast one I'd just assume he is mistaken. When I bought my car guy said it was a 6 cylinder, but when I counted spark plug wires I came up with 8 of em Confused

If it is an LT then its one of 794 built and thus somewhat rare. Of course if he's mistaken about the engine then perhaps he's mistaken about the options package too. Is it worth 2,000?? well only your friend can answer that. Is it worth 2k to have a daily driver? is it worth 2k for a fairly rare and collectible car?? what is his intention, and how devoted to 3rd gens is he?

Al Hasse · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:38 pm Post subject:

Might be worth it. I spent $3000 for my 89, but then I bought it from a used car lot. Mine at the time was the very basic LO3/T5 combo with a 3.08 posi drum rear. Did I pay more than I should have - maybe, but I saw something I could work with and try to improve upon.

chevymad · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject:

When it says 350/th350, I instantly think its had an engine swap. Probably from some 70s era pickup. So most likely a low compression smogger motor. If this is right, i'd expect all the computer stuff to be deleted and for the motor to be carbed. Don't expect to smog it. Mileage most likely won't be the best either.

cameron7710 · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject:

ya im thinking that the guy just dosnt know the car that well cause hes saying that it has a 350 a turbo 350 overdrive trans and thats it might as well be a iroc Rolling Eyes

and he talks like he thinks the car came with this

cameron7710 · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject:

ok ya i just got a e-mail back from the guy and he said "hmm well the motor is origanal but the guy told me its a turbo 350 tranny. so im not shure but the motor did come with thecar and i herd its rare for the LT to have a 350 but this one does. thats why im asking $2000"

so im pretty sure its just got a 305 so if thats the case what do u think is a good offer cause 2000 i think is to much for a 305? but me and my bro r gona go take a look at it tomorrow

iansane · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject:

You talking about this one?

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/994883753.html

Mind driving a bit? This one looks cool with the grey and 17" WS6 wheels.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/993205321.html

This one just scares me. Laughing

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/993137914.html

cameron7710 · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject:

flea · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:03 pm Post subject:

There were only some 12,000 87s built with a 350. all of them IROCs.
If you don't think a Camaro is worth 2,000 then offer 1500 or whatever you think its worth. I think that a fairly rare car and a third gen to boot is worth 2,000 dollars.
Would the 350 be better? Sure it would. But only some of the Irocs had them. This car is one of fewer than 800 built. It is more rare than the police package.

If your not concerned about the historical/rare aspect of it and are only looking to buy a used car then perhaps its not worth much. If your looking foe something unique and hard to find then perhaps it is.
Understand that MOST Third Gens didn't have 350s or manual 5 speeds. So if your idea of value is based on the engine displacement then you are saying that most camaros are not worth 2,000. If thats your opinion then thats fine, no problem there. Just trying to put it in perspective.

If as was suggested above this car is victim of an engine swap then its not worth 200 to me. cause I wouldn't know the condition of the donor engine. Has it been worked hard for 15 years then hot rodded for another ten?? Who did the work??
Again just perspective.

cameron7710 · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject:

flea · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject:

Well it is pretty plain looking.

Offer him 1500 cause the car was altered. it shouldn't have a 350 in it lol.
Get him to drop the price 5 or 6 hundred bucks.

QwkTrip · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject:

If it has a TH350 transmission then it was somebody's project at one point. Probably been thrashed hard and some cheap and tired engine put back in before the sale. Unless it still has the hot rodded engine and is wicked fast, then I would pass it up and look for a car that hasn't been hacked up. There are plenty of other cars out there.

Edit: I just saw the picture. Is it brown? Ewwwww

Do you really want to be the guy who we say drives the poopy brown Camaro? Laughing

iansane · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:57 pm Post subject:

Looks maroon to me. Maroon + Yellowy overhead light + bad cam = browny. Either way, I doubt it has a t350 in it. Probably just a stock 305/700r4 combo. If it's what your buddy wants, offer something. But I'd definitely not offer 2k. Your buddy paying cash? Offer $1200 and work up from there.

And I really doubt the historical significance of an '87 LT camaro in the long term.

Al Hasse · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject:

flea · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject:

I saw the slits and it looked odd to me but I don't remember when they went to the solid nose piece for all models.

aaron_sK · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject:

Quasi-Traction · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:36 am Post subject:

I thought that 86 Z/28 would be a better pick than the LT.