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Magman 11sec Club
Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 217 Location: Whidbey Island
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: Pulling oil pan |
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My oil leak didn't grow overnight but still, the oil pan gasket needs to be changed. I ordered it today along with a M-55 pump, 55-S screen, IS-55E intermediate shaft and a MRG-26 spring. Got the instructions to get the pan off from TGO and it sounds simple enough; remove starter, dist, y-pipe, TC cover, and motor mount bolts. Place balancer so mark points to the floor, lift motor with a jack and a 2x4 on the balancer or crank pulley enough to get the pan out. Brace motor, so you dont break any fingers and remove pan.
While I have the pan off is there anything else I should check for? Like torque on rods/mains? I plan to re-install the gasket with a light coat of permatex (black) on both sides of gasket and a bit extra in the corners.
Decided to work on the interior today, pulled seats and console for a carpet shampoo and console repairs. Found a load of garbage and almost $5.00 in change that was down there rattling around. It was a good time to scrub on the plastics too. It's starting to look pretty good! I know, pictures...patience my friends.  _________________ 1990 IROC-Z, 383 HSR, 3.70 9-Bolt
383 RWHP / 372 TQ
11.78 @ 115 w/1.59 60' (8-18-2012) |
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GREG DAVIDSON Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 1159 Location: Salem
1989 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| seems like alot to pull apart for an oil pan what engine you have ? |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| GREG DAVIDSON wrote: | | seems like alot to pull apart for an oil pan what engine you have ? |
The problem is, that you can't get the oil-pan out because of the k-member. So you have to get the engine up in the air a bit to get room. |
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GREG DAVIDSON Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 1159 Location: Salem
1989 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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yea i read that then i broke out my chilton book and it pretty much says the same thing dam glad im changing my pan gasket while it's out of the car  |
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:59 am Post subject: |
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I didnt support my motor on the balancer. I wedged a ton of 2x4's in the motor mount area.
But the rest of it sounds good. _________________ 2008 GMC Z71
1991 Camaro RS Vert
1972 Jimmy 4x4
20ft Longhorn Car Hauler
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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redlava Member

Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 448 Location: Bremerton
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| I have taken off the oil pan multiple times while jacking it up on the harmonic balancer. You just need to make sure that crank is sitting so that the 1,2 pistons are close to the top of the cylinders. This will give you the clearance to take the oil pan off while getting it past the k member. I would defenatly recomend putting rtv on both sides of the gasket. |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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I'm about to do the same thing, but I have new heads going on and a bunch of other stuff, so pulling the motor and putting it on the stand seems more justified.
Good luck Tim. Hope everything turns out leak-free. _________________
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| If you're doing the oil pump Tim, you need to pull the engine. Otherwise you're not going to be able to set the pickup tube to the right clearance on the pan. Plus you'll want to buy a pickup retaining bracket AND or weld the pickup to the pump. |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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My L98 failed due to the oil pickup tube falling out from the pump into the oil pan. Bearings have a much harder time getting oil when this happens . |
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Magman 11sec Club
Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 217 Location: Whidbey Island
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Guess I'm not seeing the whole picture... Figured I'd pull the old pump, lay it next to the new pump and get close to the correct height while out of the motor. Install new pump with pickup/screen, place modeling clay on bottom of screen housing or bottom of pan, install dry gasket and set oil pan in place, tighten a few pan bolts, remove and check height of modeling clay for proper clearance. Adjust as necessary and tack weld the pickup to the pump once good clearance has been established.
Am I missing something? The pump drive shaft will be held in place by the pump, I may have to tack weld the pickup tube on the "check" step but thats fine. I'd rather do it twice now than have it fail cause I did it wrong.
I've never done this in the car so If I'm out to lunch, let me know. I don't see why this wouldn't work? A little longer to assemble, check clearance, remove, adjust, then re-assemble, but it will be right.
Thanks guys! _________________ 1990 IROC-Z, 383 HSR, 3.70 9-Bolt
383 RWHP / 372 TQ
11.78 @ 115 w/1.59 60' (8-18-2012) |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| I adjust mine to close and then try to put the pan on. Hits pan = move up, doesn't hit pan = move down. |
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