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LB985IROC Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 478 Location: issaquah, wa
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: tbi cars |
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so i dont know exactly how many of us have tbi cars and im curious to know more baou them liek has anyone put a chip in theires anbd seen results? are they better in more ways then just more reliable then tpi?? wehat kinda numbers are you seeing the only things im really familiar wiht are TPIs and LT1s _________________ Cadillac of Bellevue
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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LB985IROC Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 478 Location: issaquah, wa
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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yea i knew you had alot dopne to yours but didnt ever look at your garage thats nice _________________ Cadillac of Bellevue
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Taking care of an exhaust leak on mine tomorrow, then I want to chip it. Maybe get that taken care of by the Jan dyno. _________________ 92 Camaro
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Just pulled mine off. Had it for about 6 months. Have worked on 4 s10's with TBI, so I know about them. |
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LB985IROC Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 478 Location: issaquah, wa
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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yea all my f-bodys were either LT1 or TPI 350 tbi is a little new hey i was wondering do you have to use a intake manifold specified for a TBI or can you use a carb one?? _________________ Cadillac of Bellevue
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Your best bet is to get a carb sible plane, and an adatper. Ther hardest part will be fitting it under the hood. I use a Weiand 7525 manifold that is a low-rise single plane with EGR, I don't know that they are made any more though. If you can find a low-rise single plane, you can make it work.
if you don't go that route, Holley and Edelbrock both make TBI manifolds, but your best performance is going to be a single plane manifold and adaptor.
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LB985IROC Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 478 Location: issaquah, wa
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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i see i see.. also is there any hinderances with cams i just found the cam i had in my blazer and it was beastly all i know though is it is an rv cam i have no idea the profiles or how to figure out what it is _________________ Cadillac of Bellevue
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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rodney (RJMcGee) once said "it's called an 'RV cam' because thats about all you can pass once you install one"
that said i have never run one, and i'll bet anything is better then the 305TBI penut cam |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Check out dewey316's cam.
Older Ultradine roller cut. I think Lunati sells something close to it now.
Tony, you probably have something close to the equvilent of a RV cam in your L98. The TPI (peanut) cams make tons of power from idle-3000rpm, just like the old RV cams did in the Flat tappet blocks.
LB985IROC...Your cam is probably something slightly better than the LG4 cut on these cars.
I'd be around a 207 or 209 AD, and a 224 .050 duration on a High .300 lift. _________________

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rjmcgee The Hammer

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Xophertony wrote: | rodney (RJMcGee) once said "it's called an 'RV cam' because thats about all you can pass once you install one"
that said i have never run one, and i'll bet anything is better then the 305TBI penut cam |
True story.
While an "RV" cam is prolly better than alot of stock cams, it makes no sence to buy one. If your gonna spend the money go with a modern cam design from Comp or Voodoo.
And being it's an LO3 it is a roller cam, go find a LT1 cam on Ebay for $20 and put that in there.
Do they even make an "RV" roller cam?  |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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IF i was to redo my engine over again, and I knew the bottom end was in descent shape. I would go with a bigger cam. Note: YOU WILL NEED TO DO TUNING, but the tuning for my cam was not bad at all, and going with a bigger cam to get another 1000 rpm out of the eninge, will gain you lot. I didn't really lose any torque, and I picked up alot of HP. I think someting in the 212*-218* intake range would work well. If you are sticking with the stock head though, the cam I used is about the limit, I would possibly go for a cam in the 208-212 range, and that should work well with the stock heads flow limits.
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STEEL Member
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 417
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, so in respect to my daily driver, the 91 with a TBI 305, what kind of cam could I put in there that would give me an increase in performance with out sacrificing fuel economy? Would it even be a good idea to cam a 305 with 180k miles on it? |
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LB985IROC Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 478 Location: issaquah, wa
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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yea idk the rv cam was a mild thought and i did not take in to consideration its a roller motor its just the old one out of my blazer man i really think i need ot get a possi before i do anyhting that thing cant get traction to save its life and its only a LO3 lol _________________ Cadillac of Bellevue
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Sellmanb Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| LB985IROC wrote: | | yea idk the rv cam was a mild thought and i did not take in to consideration its a roller motor its just the old one out of my blazer man i really think i need ot get a possi before i do anyhting that thing cant get traction to save its life and its only a LO3 lol |
a good set of tires will make the most performance difference you could notice w/ a stock setup. A posi unit w/ bad tires will still spin, not as much, but still. A good expensive set of tires on an open rear end should minimize spin a lot, as well as add to your suspension.
I just spent 170/tire at costco for a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S for my supercharged regal. I get insane amounts of traction now, and I can take corners at much higher speeds now compared to my old tires, which would have left me drifting sideways through a corner lol. |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Steel,
Didn't we talk about this at cows? Yes, I stabbed my cam in at 180k miles, it has done great, I knocked down 32mpg on my trip to KFalls.
BUT, honestly, beyond headers, don't modify you L03, UNLESS you are willing to learn and spend the time doing the computer tuning. That is the thing you have to be willing to do with EFI cars, if you don't want to mess with the computer, don't mess with the engine.
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: |
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BUT, honestly, beyond headers, don't modify you L03, UNLESS you are willing to learn and spend the time doing the computer tuning. That is the thing you have to be willing to do with EFI cars, if you don't want to mess with the computer, don't mess with the engine.
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This man speaks the truth. All cars can benifit from a tune even in stock form. The MFG has to make a setting to work no matter where the car is shipped to. All the way from from the freezeing north, to blistering south. Elevation changes, even useage! That stock setting has to work in all places, all the time.
Then start tossing on aftermarket parts, and how you use it. Psh. I'm just now starting to learn this stuff and my mind has went up in smoke countless times already. But I know in the end, its going to make it so much better. |
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STEEL Member
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 417
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Now that you mention it, i remember that..... So, what would it take for me to do some tune work on my 91? It seems to be becoming less fuel efficient and the power just drops off at 3700 rpm. I dont know if its cam, or injectors, or what.... |
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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not changing the cam, won't cause you to lose power. I suspect there is something else happening. Have you done all the tune-up stuff? Plugs/wires/cap/rotor/fuel filter/air filter?
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STEEL Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Nope!
Ya, hadn't even thought of that yet. Im still wanting to do some MSD on that car, but I havnt gotten the money together for it yet...
Are the super fancy spark plugs really worth the extra money? |
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