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T56 mutilation.
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iansane
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: T56 mutilation. Reply with quote

So as soon as I opened up my t56 I found bits and pieces of bearing races, plastic bearing cages and what looks like tips of teeth and the magnets were COVERED in metal shavings.

Teaser pics...

With the rear case off.


The magnet and chunks.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked

What now?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... that would explain some of the problems, yeah. Surprised

Do you have a puller big enough for it? I've been reading up on it and apparently you need like an 20" gear puller or something.
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iansane
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schultz, let's just say that the inside of my transmission has a crapload of metal dust on all surfaces. It's shinier than your noggin. Shocked Very Happy

aaron_sK wrote:
Wow... that would explain some of the problems, yeah. Surprised

Do you have a puller big enough for it? I've been reading up on it and apparently you need like an 20" gear puller or something.


Mine's not that long, but I'll just make it. Laughing That or borrow it from work. It may take me a bit longer because I don't have a press but I can take whatever I need into work and do it there for free.

I'm actually really excited about doing this rebuild. I've always wanted to learn taking apart transmissions.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you get this one back together I'd pay you cash to do the same thing to mine. Third is junk, and it often feels stiff going into some gears, although that might be a clutch thing.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats cause you're granny shifting, and not double clutching like you should.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xophertony wrote:
thats cause you're granny shifting, and not double clutching like you should.


SSHHHHHHSHHHHH. If he blows the welds on his manifold, then I might beat him this year at dyno.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

his floorboards will fly out LONG before that happens Rolling Eyes
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iansane
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All right you guys. Don't dork up my thread with that ricer rubbish! Mad

aaron_sK wrote:
If you get this one back together I'd pay you cash to do the same thing to mine. Third is junk, and it often feels stiff going into some gears, although that might be a clutch thing.


Laughing I like how you preface that with "If". Dude, when I get back together I'd love to try another one but it's almost as cost effective to just order a complete unit from sixspeedsinc.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"If"... Embarassed Fixed that one.

Their site is down (yet again) and I don't remember what they charge for rebuilds.

Did you buy all new everything, or were you going to tear into it to see what you needed first?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their stage one is only 950 + 500 core minus bearings which are a $160 extra. I bought it all, just in case. I don't really want to tear into it again for awhile. I hate when my bird is down. Since I also lost the trans in the blazer, I'm forced to drive the path.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geez. That sucks about the Blazer. Was it just a low fluid burnout? Damn thing pissed fluid all the time.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iansane wrote:
I'm forced to drive the path.


Do you have a pathfinder also, or is this dirty steves "mudfinder" ?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume it was fluid loss, evertime I checked it, it was fine level wise.

Laughing Yup, the mudbathfinder!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you transmission looks like the bottom of my oil pan right now.......

tony snapped a couple pictures of it....you gotta see 3 and 4's connecting rods!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Ian, when your done, I need to do my T-5... I cant afford a T-56 yet, and so I'm going to just re-build the T-5 thats already there.....

Yes, I know, it wont last me more than a year. That is totaly ok with me...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More pictures of inside the case! I finally got time to tear it down!

I yanked the 5/6th gear assemblies off and a huge chunk fell out, luckily it was from the main section of the case. It's about a 1/2"x1/2".


More parts as I pull things.


Right after I pull the main body off.


Oh wait, is that supposed to be attached? Laughing That's the famous aluminum 3/4 shift fork.


More work tommorrow!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL So glad I got a steel 3/4 fork!
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iansane
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, if my puny 305 tore the aluminum one apart I can just imagine what your motor would do! I'm amazed they put that behind stock LT1's!
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