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Xophertony
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: non dented TPI runners Reply with quote

hey, i was talking to somone a while back about runners for the TPI that they had lying around that were not dented. i am still looking to get some. so if anyone has any.

also if you are looking to still have a spare working TPI unit or somthing i will gladly give you the dented ones. they work, they are just ugly. Very Happy

i am getting ready to start on my "polished/buffed up TPI" project and don't want to shine dented runners.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.azspeed.com/19latuinru.html

[img]http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/azspeed_1914_3150120[/img]

Get the 89+ ones and you can ditch that cold start injector/tube/wiring/etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have proven to increase torque by 30 ft/lb. and horsepower by 25 on stock 5.7L engine


Buh? That seems a bit much for what amounts to a port job. Anyone here actually using them?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheesx on his 400SBC.

They are the best aftermarket TPI runners out there reguardless of the claims. SLP stuff is crap, edelbrock is in the middle. AS&M are bigger & maintain stock look.
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Xophertony
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was actualy looking at the edelbrocks and thinking "if i wanted ugly i would get a stealthram/miniram/superram". i like TPI cause when i open my hood i get... uhm... happy.

thanks for the link paul. that is realy cool that they maintain the stock look. but it comes down to the dough. these plus a new baseplate and i am 60% of the way to a TPIS, which would yeild much better results. it is just not economical. if i am going to stick with TPI i am going to stick with stock TPI. upgrading the TPI intake itself is not where i am headed right now.

Edelbrock TPI baseplate 385.95
AS&M TPI runners........ 435.00
total.......................... 820.95
TPIS Minirammanifold ... 895.00
TPIS miniram fuel rail kit 355.00
Total......................... 1340.00

when/if i am ready to start upgrading my induction system i will probably look to follow you and schultzy and go for what makes the most sense.

i also think that when/if i go with a new induction system that i can recoupe some of the cost by selling my polished TPI intake/runners and base.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xophertony wrote:
follow you and schultzy and go for what makes the most sense.


That is sure giving those two a lot of credit. Razz Razz Razz Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xophertony wrote:

thanks for the link paul. that is realy cool that they maintain the stock look. but it comes down to the dough. these plus a new baseplate and i am 60% of the way to a TPIS, which would yeild much better results. it is just not economical. if i am going to stick with TPI i am going to stick with stock TPI. upgrading the TPI intake itself is not where i am headed right now.

Edelbrock TPI baseplate 385.95
AS&M TPI runners........ 435.00
total.......................... 820.95
TPIS Minirammanifold ... 895.00
TPIS miniram fuel rail kit 355.00
Total......................... 1340.00

when/if i am ready to start upgrading my induction system i will probably look to follow you and schultzy and go for what makes the most sense.

i also think that when/if i go with a new induction system that i can recoupe some of the cost by selling my polished TPI intake/runners and base.


For the TPIS to yeild results (and I'm not sure why you think the stealthram is ugly, but would go with the TPIS) You need to spin the motor and give it a big camshaft. Not reccommended for an L98. Though the Hotcam in there is a nice combo.... but then you are borrowed bottom end time.

The Stealthram on the same motor makes more torque.

Plus I'd get the Accel base, not the edelbrock.

I've never been impressed with edelbrock's casting and quality.

Plus, the stealth ram you're looking at under $600 for it all.

It all depends on what you wanna do.

Larger runners/base will move the power band up a bit, and give you more power. Stick a nice torque crushing voodoo or XE cam in there, and I bet you could pull the wheels with sticky tires and axles that don't break.

IMHO.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i mis-spoke, i think they are all uglier then TPI, i think i would go with the TPIS 1st on looks alone because it is the 2nd best. if i was to look into induction mods i would LOOK into induction mods. i just threw the TPIS out there for the sake of argument, the 600 miniram just prooves my point. $$$ spent upgrading TPI is better spent on a new induction system.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you consider an LT1 intake? you could utilize your TPI throttle body.....actually I'm not sure it would fit, I think its longer and would run into your coil and distributor. I also don't know if the manifold to cylinder head bolt pattern is different....

hmmph......someone enlighten me the error of my ways...

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use the LT1 intake, but it has to be modified with a distributor hole. There's someone selling intakes all ready to go allready.

Paul, I recently read some new info on the Accell base. Seems that edlebrock is now the only one making bases for tpi. Someone recently bought the Accell unit and inside the accell box is an edlebrock casting. A little more digging turns out everybody else quit casting manifolds and is now rebadging the edlebrock as their own. So unless you want to pay lingenfelter or accell for the box, gotta go edlebrock.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow that's news.

the TPI throttle body works on all the inductions.

Plus it's a Stealthram for $600 :O)

But id depends on what you wanna do.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twilightoptics wrote:
Wow that's news.

the TPI throttle body works on all the inductions.

Plus it's a Stealthram for $600 :O)

But id depends on what you wanna do.


lol, earlier today I told tony that when he starts making real power he'll either cave and carburate it or get the HSR and Commander. of course, I'm carburated and mine doesn't even run...lol.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know if it's "caving" but i do plan on swapping induction systems in the future. it might be the same time i swap engine blocks though Very Happy of course these plans are all verry tentative. and no firm date yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... so swapping the block and the intake... Laughing Seems to me you might need to do a couple things between those two.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xophertony wrote:
i don't know if it's "caving" but i do plan on swapping induction systems in the future. it might be the same time i swap engine blocks though Very Happy of course these plans are all verry tentative. and no firm date yet.



I have a complete high performance LG4 engine that I would sell you for only $5000, it has high performance induction and a high performance block.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asdfga3 wrote:
Hmm... so swapping the block and the intake... Laughing Seems to me you might need to do a couple things between those two.


yeah... perhaps... Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like the TPI look there is also the FIRST TPI setup. That will run you about 1200 bones though.

FIRST Fuel Injection

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that looks cool, did you see the pics of the runners next to stockers?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is B.A.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramjet.
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