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Danked Banned
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 278 Location: Toppenish, Wa
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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eh, not really any dents, looks pretty decent, paint is crap tho, just plain white, mine at least has some glossy shine to it, oh and hers has a bra!  _________________ Towed amaro, 2nd engine blown spent $1500 not spending more. Decided not worth it. |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Asdfga3 wrote: | Wow.
What does your Mom's look like? Is it in pretty decent shape? |
hehe - I kinda read that wrong the first time
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Buy your mom's 84 Z/28.
I'd go after it, but I've decided to redo the heads on my POS 85 Z/28. Body will have to come later.....for now its make her run again.... _________________
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mrpopo573 Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 761 Location: Port Townsend/Maui HI
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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I can see your exhaust work in that pic.
A boom tube from a civic? There had to be a glasspack ( i know they are close to the same design) lying around???!
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| 305302eater wrote: | Man I would love a 69. I hate you so much.
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Danked Banned
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 278 Location: Toppenish, Wa
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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nah friend cut my fart cannon off of his chevy celebrity, gave it to me and paid $65 to have it installed, straight tube all the way back to it, i think 2 1/2? maybe 2 1/4. noticed like +20hp from that and my cold air intake. i used to have a glasspack installed, but it restricted, and it was old, so i thought hey why the hell not put this on, it looks nicer _________________ Towed amaro, 2nd engine blown spent $1500 not spending more. Decided not worth it. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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20HP on a V6? Plus if you paid for it, then they probably left your cat.  |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| dude.. thhe butt dyno is not verry acurate. IF you noticed a difference it was probably in your head. if you did not it is probably more like 5HP. a cold air intake does not realy give you much HP, it does give better gas mialage though. i also noteiced my engine running cooler after i installed it. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Umm... isn't a MPFI Camaro going to have a dual-filtered snorkle on it anyhow? |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| it should have yeah. that is like the best intake you can get. just gut the box and your golden. if i could run one on a bird BOTH of my babies would have it. |
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Danked Banned
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 278 Location: Toppenish, Wa
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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heh, my muffler guy charged $45 to cut my CAT off and install a pipe, then $65 to install my fart cannon, not bad  _________________ Towed amaro, 2nd engine blown spent $1500 not spending more. Decided not worth it. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| Danked wrote: | heh, my muffler guy would never dream of chargeing me to cut my CAT off and install a pipe, that is illegal. in fact if i knew of any exhaust shopes that were to oporate with such flagrent disregard for the law i would report them straight away! mofifying your cars catalytic converter is irresponsible and wrong.
my local shop did charge $65 to install my fart cannon, not bad  |
i fixed that for you. you see, since it is illegal in the state of washington to modify a cars exhaust system in that way, you must have made a typo. no exhaust shop would do that as they could get in trouble. so it never happened.... right? right.
i also did not have a fellow crewbie install a delete pipe in my exhaust system, as that would be wrong....
also, no that is not realy that great of a deal. i would not say you got "ripped off" or anything, but that is not "cheap" at all. it is about what i would expect to pay for cutting the old one out, doing one weald and making a custom hanger. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Actually, Tony, that's the going (albeight high) rate for that kind of welding work at an exhaust shop. And most of the time they do a crappy job too.
Edit: I remember a couple topics on TGO about how the dual-snorkle gets to narrow for good airflow when it goes over the radiator. Not having anything to compare, I couldn't say for sure, but mine does get pretty thin in that area. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Actually guys he got a fair deal all around for what was done. I've been charged $65 several times JUST to install a muffler, that I already had.
Also keep in mind, this dude is in Toppensih... if it's not technically part of the yakima reservation, it may as well be.
There are exhaust shops all over the country that will do illicit things, you just don't get a receipt. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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it was one of those "sarcasam" things. also note how i said that i had never had a cat delete done... when you know full well i have.  _________________ 86' firebird (Junked in 2015). 88' GTA (sold in 2020).
| aaron_sK wrote: | | Hell, Tony drove his GTA to Cows a few years back with the pickup coil that came out in pieces. |
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Danked Banned
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 278 Location: Toppenish, Wa
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:10 am Post subject: |
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thank you twilight, and yes toppenish is a native american reservation, all of it. i thought $65 was a bit high to install my muffler, the guy in yak said he would have done it for $40 but i wanted it done now and it was like 6:30 pm, anyways what i think im gonna do is take my car too the cheapest mechanic i can find, have him put high compression pistons and that would fix my prob since he would need too change the connecting rods anyways, might be spendy but ill feel a hp increase, maybe 10.5:1? _________________ Towed amaro, 2nd engine blown spent $1500 not spending more. Decided not worth it. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:22 am Post subject: |
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for the cost of that work you could purchgase your mothers car. and have more HP and a better base to build from then your 3.1. if you are dead set on building from a GM 60*v6 platform thats cool. the parts do exist and you will end up with a great autoX machine if you do it right.
but if you ever want to run with the bigdogs on the road course or a quarter mile you are going to need two more cylanders and another 30* of piston offset. or enough juice to blow yourself up.  |
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Danked Banned
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 278 Location: Toppenish, Wa
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:31 am Post subject: |
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i was thinking about it though, my dads worked on my moms car before, even though they dont get along, and said the quarter panels are starting to rust and so is the frame, so yeah  _________________ Towed amaro, 2nd engine blown spent $1500 not spending more. Decided not worth it. |
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Wolffy Member
Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Spokane
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:06 am Post subject: |
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hey Danked if your thinking of just having a mechanic replace the pistons & rods, its a really bad idea, its a grenade waiting to happen
first off any real mechanic wouldnt do it, as they would be liable for the almsot certain damages that will occur
certain things you never put in new to a broken in motor
your cylinders have a wear pattern from the current pistons, if you put in new pistons without honing the walls, it will at the least screw your pistons up
plus you will need new rings & rod bearings, same thing applies with the rod bearings too, ie the wear pattern
sure it can be done, but i would NEVER trust that motor
by the time you are done, honing the walls & main bearings, you might as well just spend the extra $$$ & time & have the bottom end rebuilt correctly anyways
now i now it has & can be done, sometimes you can get away with just rebuilding the bottom end & leave the heads alone, but if your wanting to increase the compression, i would have the heads rebuilt too, especially if they have some miles on em, as the bottom end would be fresh with higher compression & they heads would be old & tired, its possible you could blow a head clean off the block, (it has happended to people before)
i guess the moral of my story is, certain things you do right the first time, or you end up spending more time & $$$ to redo it right a second time ( i know this cause when i was younger i did this very same kind of stuff & once in a while i got lucky, but usually i didnt)
cause id hate to see anyone spend the $$$ on new pistons & other parts, put them in & have the motor blow up & then the $$$ & time that was spent just putting in the pistons is wasted, as most likely they wouldnt be reusable |
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rjmcgee The Hammer

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2328
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| Danked wrote: | | anyways what i think im gonna do is take my car too the cheapest mechanic i can find, have him put high compression pistons and that would fix my prob since he would need too change the connecting rods anyways, might be spendy but ill feel a hp increase, maybe 10.5:1? |
That's what I'm gonna do someday.  |
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