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84transam383
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you have to run 4th gen panels for it to look right,otherwise you have HUGE gaps on each side of the car,snag up a 4th gen dash of your choice,and some panels,and ill help you do the swap  hell ill even wire up the cluster so it all works like it should |
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BigDaddyVu
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:39 am Post subject: |
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WHY?
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Xophertony
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: |
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chris. a compotent welder can fill a 3" gap. it will take a while, and it might not be as string as the original solid piece, but it would be done.
there are two ways:
1. use other metal (from the pieces we cut out of the 84) as a patch and do two lap or butt welds to get it in there.
2. fill it with weld. this is harder but more fun.
when i was in metal shop in HS i used to take two pieces of scrap, usualy of different thicknesses and place them in an overlapping "V" shape. i would bridge the gap with weld, welding on weld for as far as i could. i think my record was two inches. we had damn good welders, but i would like to think some of it was due to my skill. i reeeaaly miss welding. i have often thought of dropping major cash on a good Lincoln or somthing just to play with it. but i don't realy have that kind of "fun money" lying around. if i did though i would buy a wirefeed. i never licked torch welding, stick was ok, but wire feed was the most fun, mostly because you did'nt have to stop every 5 seconds to get a new rod. lame. |
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84transam383
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| why what? if your asking why you have to run 4th gen panels,its because the 4th gen dash is narrower by a few inches then the 3rd gen dash,the 4th gen doorpanels which "fit into" the 4th gen dash,fill up this gap,if youve ever been in a 4th gen you'd know what i was referring too. |
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Twilightoptics
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Xophertony wrote: | a compotent welder can fill a 3" gap. it will take a while, and it might not be as string as the original solid piece, but it would be done.
there are two ways:
1. use other metal (from the pieces we cut out of the 84) as a patch and do two lap or butt welds to get it in there.
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Let me Rephrase:
A competent welder will use a piece of metal properly fit within the gap and either V-groove the joint for 100% penetration, or lap joint the pieces if heavy structural integrity is not an issue.
A competent welder will NOT fill a 3" gap with only filler metal. The result would be a hodge podge of porosity, wasted time/materials, and a fugly weld.
Thus concludes our welding tutorial for today. |
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Xophertony
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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well yeah.... you would not DO it, but you would be capable of doing it. i used to do it for fun.
this is not somthing that will be holding alot of weight, i would overlap the pieces and do lap welds just for ease of welding. |
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Quasi-Traction
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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So..........who wants to do it?!?!
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