Cascade Crew

[Dewey316]

http://www.google.com/talk/

Looks like google is getting into the chat game. As I tend to really like anything google, I'm going to download it tonight. If anyone else wants to test it out with me, download it, and catch me on there!

--John

Edit: Also, if anyone needs a gmail address, I think I have something like 250 invites available, just PM me your e-mail address, and I'll send you over a gmail invite.

[Xophertony]

neat. i am on. is your name "dewey316"? mine is "xophertony"

[Xophertony]

wow, 250! they only gave me 19!!! i git jacked.

[Dewey316]

well, I've been on g-mail, since like day #2

[Xophertony]

how do i reply to your messeges? (gtalk)

[Dewey316]

Umm, i dunno, I don't have gtalk installed. I sent you an e-mail.

--John

[NHRA427]

I added you xophertony. It sent you an invite, lol

[Xophertony]

cool. i added you.

john, your email pooped up on gtalk. i thought it was a message.

EDIT poped. his email "poped" up on gtalk.

[iansane]

Interesting slip there man.

I d/l'd it. I'm iansane on there as well.

[Kage87Z]

Disturbing Facts About Google

Published: 12/02/2005 09:56:15
Google are clearly gathering information about us but refuse to tell us
why. It's nothing new to us, but while they cannot control normal SERPs,
they do however control who is viewing what and when.

We run Google adverts in order to survive. Does this mean we shouldn't
share the information below? If you know an alternative way to sustain
costs please get in touch.

Please note, Google does not track you by simply viewing pages containing
their adverts.

1. Google's immortal cookie:
Google was the first search engine to use a cookie that expires in 2038.
This was at a time when federal websites were prohibited from using
persistent cookies altogether. Now it's years later, and immortal cookies
are commonplace among search engines ; Google set the standard because no
one bothered to challenge them. This cookie places a unique ID number on
your hard disk. Anytime you land on a Google page, you get a Google cookie
if you don't already have one. If you have one, they read and record your
unique ID number.

2. Google records everything they can:
For all searches they record the cookie ID, your Internet IP address, the
time and date, your search terms, and your browser configuration.
Increasingly, Google is customizing results based on your IP number. This
is referred to in the industry as "IP delivery based on geolocation."

3. Google retains all data indefinitely:
Google has no data retention policies. There is evidence that they are
able to easily access all the user information they collect and save.

4. Google won't say why they need this data:
Inquiries to Google about their privacy policies are ignored. When the New
York Times (2002-11-2 asked Sergey Brin about whether Google ever gets
subpoenaed for this information, he had no comment.

5. Google hires spooks:
Matt Cutts, a key Google engineer, used to work for the National Security
Agency. Google wants to hire more people with security clearances, so that
they can peddle their corporate assets to the spooks in Washington.

6. Google's toolbar is spyware:
With the advanced features enabled, Google's free toolbar for Explorer
phones home with every page you surf, and yes, it reads your cookie too.
Their privacy policy confesses this, but that's only because Alexa lost a
class-action lawsuit when their toolbar did the same thing, and their
privacy policy failed to explain this. Worse yet, Google's toolbar updates
to new versions quietly, and without asking. This means that if you have
the toolbar installed, Google essentially has complete access to your hard
disk every time you connect to Google (which is many times a day). Most
software vendors, and even Microsoft, ask if you'd like an updated
version. But not Google. Any software that updates automatically presents
a massive security risk.

7. Google's cache copy is illegal:
Judging from Ninth Circuit precedent on the application of U.S. copyright
laws to the Internet, Google's cache copy appears to be illegal. The only
way a webmaster can avoid having his site cached on Google is to put a
"noarchive" meta in the header of every page on his site. Surfers like the
cache, but webmasters don't. Many webmasters have deleted questionable
material from their sites, only to discover later that the problem pages
live merrily on in Google's cache. The cache copy should be "opt-in" for
webmasters, not "opt-out."

8. Google is not your friend:
By now Google enjoys a 75 percent monopoly for all external referrals to
most websites. Webmasters cannot avoid seeking Google's approval these
days, assuming they want to increase traffic to their site. If they try to
take advantage of some of the known weaknesses in Google's semi-secret
algorithms, they may find themselves penalized by Google, and their
traffic disappears. There are no detailed, published standards issued by
Google, and there is no appeal process for penalized sites. Google is
completely unaccountable. Most of the time Google doesn't even answer
email from webmasters.

9. Google is a privacy time bomb:
With 200 million searches per day, most from outside the U.S., Google
amounts to a privacy disaster waiting to happen. Those newly-commissioned
data-mining bureaucrats in Washington can only dream about the sort of
slick efficiency that Google has already achieved.
google-watch

[mrpopo573]

The good things about google:

1. xophertony and dewey have now found a way to communicate in private, at their own leisure, and expand upon their already flourishing relationship.

2. yeah thats it.

oh wait, I love google! Spooks aside.

[Xophertony]

it's my startup page. i was always wondering how when i go to certain pages it gives my adds specific to my geographic location EX: adds for things in beaverton i'm going to run my cleanup stuff and see whats up...

[Dewey316]

Darn near every company on the web cookies. not worry to much.

[Xophertony]

we're flourishing

[mrpopo573]

[Dewey316]

[Kage87Z]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/03/google_desktop_vuln/

Phishing with Google Desktop
IE CSS exposes all. Again
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Published Saturday 3rd December 2005 01:24 GMT
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It's nice to see Microsoft and Google's respective technologies working in tandem - but not so nice to see it used to expose data on your own hard disk to a malicious website operator.

Security researcher Matan Gillon has published a proof-of-concept flaw that exploits Google Desktop, the search software that runs on a local PC, and Internet Explorer 6.

The principal culprit, once again, is Microsoft's lax and inconsistent implementation of Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) in Internet Explorer. A web site can inject code into a page which allows it to execute on a remote machine.

"All an attacker has to do is lure a user to a malicious web page. Thousands of web sites can be exploited and there isn't a simple solution against this attack at least until IE is fixed. That means millions of IE users are affected by this design flaw," writes Gillon.

Opera and FireFox users are safe.

However this particular flaw wouldn't have been possible without careless programming by Google, which amazingly, fails to obey the Google Desktop security model on its own site.

Gillon discovered that on certain pages, such as Google News, it was easy to extract the security key that the local copy of Google Desktop needs to permit queries to be executed.

"This feature has been in IE at least since IE 6 came out," writes a sarcastic Slashdot member.

"That means Microsoft is again leading the field when it comes to AJAX and Web2.0 products."

The weight of responsibility for this flaw falls on Microsoft. But Google shares some blame too, for failing to take the integrity of your personal data seriously. ®

Glad I could help.

[Xophertony]

FIREFOX! don't have it? GET IT. faster, safer, better.

http://www.mozilla.org/

tabbed browsing is sexy.

[Dewey316]

[Sellmanb]

Cant we all just... ... get along?