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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
1989 Pontiac Firebird
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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I think I have it figured out. There is nothing wrong. The continuity check between Fusible Links and C100 F4 was back feeding through grounds.
C100 F4 is connected to ground through GAGE fuse. If a ground can be established on the Fusible Link circuit then the multi-meter is going to see continuity. The door switch happened to be the ground. I can replicate the same behavior with headlight switch, or brake light because it is on the same fusible link circuit as the door switch.
Izcain, I never would have figured this out without those schematics. Thank you! Now to put my dash back together again and repair a broken wire. |
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izcain 9sec Club
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1306 Location: Port Angeles WA
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hey there man I just saw this again, if you need it I can post it. If you got it though then awesome!
Glad to help out! _________________
1983 Z28 383 + 201ci more = New Heart for this season!
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izcain 9sec Club
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1306 Location: Port Angeles WA
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Ground locations just for shizzle and giggles lol
Ground G100: Lower LH Front Of Engine
Ground G102: LH Rear Corner Of Engine Compartment
Ground G103 (Exc. V8-305/5.OL, VIN E): On Radiator Support
Ground G104: On Radiator Support, Behind RH Headlights
Ground G105: RH Front Of Engine Compartment On Inner Fender
Ground G108: RH Front Of Dash, Above Center Of Blower Motor
Ground G112: Rear Of LH Cylinder Head
Ground G115: RH Rear Of Engine Compartment, On Inner Fender
Ground G118: Rear Of RH Cylinder Head
Ground G123: RH Front Corner Of Engine Compartment
Ground G200: Behind I/P, Left Of Steering Column
Ground G210: Behind Center Of I/P, On Support Bracket
Ground G215: Behind LH Side Of I/P, Left Of Steering Column
Ground G216: At LH Shroud
Ground G302: Center Of Windshield Header
Ground G303: Center Of End Panel
Ground G304: Under Rear Seat, On Support Bracket
Ground G320: Behind RH Side Of I/P
Ground G322: Rear Of Car, Near RH Hatch Support Bracket
Ground G323: On LH Front Fender, Behind Wheelhouse _________________
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izcain 9sec Club
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1306 Location: Port Angeles WA
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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In case some other member is fighting something I might as well put a bit more since I have it right here. _________________
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
1989 Pontiac Firebird
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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izcain wrote: | Ground locations just for shizzle and giggles lol |
Exactly. Now everybody is going to be saying shizzle. LOL!
Thank you! |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
1989 Pontiac Firebird
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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And nothing blew up yet.
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Now question is, did you leave the battery connected and in your garage tonight? |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
1989 Pontiac Firebird
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, hell no!
In fact, I was using a jumper pack with a power switch so I could control everything. I was as nervous as could be the first time I threw that switch! |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
1989 Pontiac Firebird
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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My driver side headlight won't move. Both headlights turn on, but the driver side doesn't budge. I swapped the outputs at the headlight control module and the problem switched sides, so I know the motor works on the driver side. Both the RED power inputs to the control module are hot so I've got power to both motor switches.
Is it pretty much down to a bad circuit board? I took it apart and all the solders look solid. Otherwise I'm pretty much clueless what I'm looking at on that board. |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
1989 Pontiac Firebird
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Why does everything get solved as soon as I ask a question? I sanded the electrical terminals and, Viola! Everything works.
Now I need to figure out why my HVAC fan never shuts off. It just idles along really slow when the switch is in the off position. |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
1989 Pontiac Firebird
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Izcain, can you give me a schematic of blower controls for '89 Firebird with air conditioning? |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
1989 Pontiac Firebird
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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The fan wiring is fine. Turns out the HVAC selector switch isn't correct. That part was a pain in the ass to find and it was the wrong one to boot. I might call Hawks and get this done with. |
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izcain 9sec Club
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1306 Location: Port Angeles WA
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:02 am Post subject: |
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I'm getting a little faster at responding lol _________________
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izcain 9sec Club
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1306 Location: Port Angeles WA
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:07 am Post subject: |
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One more fo shizzle _________________
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izcain 9sec Club
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1306 Location: Port Angeles WA
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Trying to get them resized as I go..... _________________
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Another moment of truth.... I bled the brakes and had my wife stand on the brake pedal. No leaks!!! AWESOME!
Regarding the HVAC switch, I'm taking the "spray fire" approach. I just bought a bunch of different ones today, new and used, and one of them has to work. And the headlight module is being flaky again. I'm getting a refurbished one from Top Down Solutions. A new one is $500! That makes the $80 for used seem somewhat reasonable, as sad as that sounds. |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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After poking at things tonight it looks like all my chassis wiring is good. Just need to replace a switch for HVAC and the headlight door module.
Next step is to power up the underhood fuse box, which frankly is about 50% of the wiring in the car and is 100% my creation.... so, ya I'm a bit nervous. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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QwkTrip wrote: | After poking at things tonight it looks like all my chassis wiring is good. Just need to replace a switch for HVAC and the headlight door module.
Next step is to power up the underhood fuse box, which frankly is about 50% of the wiring in the car and is 100% my creation.... so, ya I'm a bit nervous. |
Spoken like a true engineer. Flip the damn switch and look for smoke like a true technician! _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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QwkTrip wrote: |
Next step is to power up the underhood fuse box, which frankly is about 50% of the wiring in the car and is 100% my creation.... so, ya I'm a bit nervous. |
Spoken like a true engineer. Flip the damn switch and look for smoke like a true technician! _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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izcain 9sec Club
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1306 Location: Port Angeles WA
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Twilightoptics wrote: | QwkTrip wrote: |
Next step is to power up the underhood fuse box, which frankly is about 50% of the wiring in the car and is 100% my creation.... so, ya I'm a bit nervous. |
Spoken like a true engineer. Flip the damn switch and look for smoke like a true technician! |
lol
I think I am going to have to go back and read the thread thru so I can acually get caught up lol _________________
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