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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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One more thought:
On my Camaro I ran Taylor wires with 90* boots and no condoms. I ran them up through the top similar to Al's and I had zero issues with them for several years. The Accell ones I replaced were physically crispy in some spots.  |
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| Ive had problems with several accel parts. I wont put them on my car if given to me. |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| I think I shall upgrade to Taylor wires soon. But first I need to figure out my tuning . I have been doing akot of reading on timing and it seems that in order to do it correctly I am in a pickle , for my engine is bit sick to the car and I have no clue of the internals , so therefor no way to no what my timing should be at. |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| And to make matters worse, all that I have been reading shows how to do it with a dial back gun |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:07 am Post subject: |
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yup.
Old heads set it to 36 total after 3000rpm, put the vacuum port on manifold vacuum and see if it pings. If it does, back it down a degree at a time.
No dial back light, use timing tape. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | | No dial back light, use timing tape. |
I have never owned a dialback light. Never found myself needing one.
If the wires/cap/rotor/plugs are at all questionable I would replace them before doing any tuning of the distributor. Otherwise you could be chasing your tail trying to tune out a mechanical fault. |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I had this old man from across the strett come over. He said by ear timing didn't seem to bad, so he showed me how to use a screw driver to ground out plugs and with that u found a wire that visably didn't look bad bad was. Replaced it. Runs well enough now to at least get me by for a week or two. But I have a bad exhaust leak |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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LMAO. I remember those old coots.
"yeah that sounds right to me."
Then I prove to them what 15deg off can do to an engine. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Back in their day the gas was good, the compression was low, the head design was terrible, the cam was too big and they could get by with BS like that.
Now it's gasahol and small high-compression heads and hyper pistons. |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I am sure timing is off, but it did show me that at least then, wire was bad |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| jchaussee wrote: | | I am sure timing is off, but it did show me that at least then, wire was bad |
Didn't we already establish that your wires were dead?! _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I figured they were but a visual Inspe tion showed no issues. So that is where trick of the old timer came into play. After I saw nothing visually I with my no knowledge brain assumed timing had just jumped real bad. |
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Alphius Peanut

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
1984 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:31 am Post subject: |
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You can also check for that easier than pulling all the plugs by firing the car up cold then feeling the header tubes and looking for a cold one. You need a timing light to do your timing. I have a dialback light but it's almost useless and I don't trust it's measurements so I use it locked to 0 and use the 0-60 degree marks on my balancer instead. You can get that same effect with timing tape. _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
85 Silverado - Low and Slow |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| While we're on the subject of old-man tricks: in the past I have found a dead cylinder by putting the inductive pickup of the timing light on each plug wire and pointing the gun at the ground. |
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Alphius Peanut

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | While we're on the subject of old-man tricks: in the past I have found a dead cylinder by putting the inductive pickup of the timing light on each plug wire and pointing the gun at the ground. |
I've done that too. He don't got no timing light.  _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
85 Silverado - Low and Slow |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a timing light, just not a dialback. I have an old school sears light from like 1977 |
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jchaussee Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I have one of those timing tabs on my harmonic balancer, so do I need timing tape? |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| jchaussee wrote: | | I have a timing light, just not a dialback. I have an old school sears light from like 1977 |
Doesn't matter. The light I have is one my Dad bought before I was born. He gave it to me when he sold his last distributor car.
| jchaussee wrote: | | I have one of those timing tabs on my harmonic balancer, so do I need timing tape? |
Does the timing tab on your distributor read back to 36* btdc?  |
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jchaussee Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know. It is oily. But the one I saw on the you tube video did. Lol |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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That was a joke.
It will read back to eight or ten degrees, maybe twelve. You need the tape. Cheap stuff. Just clean the balancer first. |
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