Cascade Crew

DBL_TKE · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:42 am Post subject: Educate me on police entrapment

How is it illegal, and what can make it legal? Whats the exact definition?

Dewey316 · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:44 am Post subject:

it entirely depends on what form you might be talking about. If it is traffic related, look at specific laws about speed traps, or whatever the specific violoation is.

DBL_TKE · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:06 am Post subject:

Specifically, ORS 811.028 "Failure to stop and remain stopped for pedestrian."

They have an undercover cop walking back and forth across a crosswalk (no signal or stop sign, no painted crosswalk lines) and there are 6-7 cops pulling people over left and right handing out tickets like candy. Yes, there is a sign before hand stating "pedestrian enforcement operation ahead."

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:08 am Post subject:

Undercover is legal.

Entrapment is if a police officer knowingly entices a citizen to commit a crime.

Dewey316 · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:23 am Post subject:

They put out a sign, not sure that is entrapment, it was pretty clear that it was the police.

I think is a BS way to go about things, but I doubt that it is an illegal citation.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:58 am Post subject:

DBL_TKE · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:04 pm Post subject:

RSFreak · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:29 pm Post subject:

It is a BS tactic, seems like kinda a grey area. They are not enticing you to commit a crime, but they are putting all the elements in place for you to commit a crime. Seems like the sign is an "out" for them as far as people claiming entrapment. Sad

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:49 pm Post subject:

They put out a sign. What more do you want from them?

Cops tailgating is old news. Around here they call it "pacing" and it's a legal maneuver to determine speed, although they often used it as a scare-tactic or to incite people to speed.

Hire a traffic lawyer and get it tossed out. The Judge doesn't want to hear people whine about entrapment and he's not going to let you off if you pursue that. He just wants to move cases through and go home.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject:

Judge isn't gonna change anything. I'd put money on that.

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:55 pm Post subject:

Allow me to clarify: I do not think Skyler should argue this case himself, or try to get this ticket tossed out based on entrapment. I think he should have a traffic lawyer deal with it.

I still think he will not end up having to pay it, just that this is the wrong way to go about it.

Just my two cents. Smile

jchaussee · Member Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton

A old Chinese wise man once told me " you get a much justice as you can afford" . Get lawyer and pay no fine.

DBL_TKE · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:19 pm Post subject:

I'm not worried about the fine, I'm worried about this going on my record, my career depends on me having a clean driving record.

iansane · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject:

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject:

IROCDave · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject:

Depends on the ticket, most times the lawyer charges about the same as the ticket. Money well spent.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject:

Use differal and keep yourself clean.

What career if you don't mind sharing?

DBL_TKE · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject:

Automotive Technician for a dealership.

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:57 pm Post subject:

DBL_TKE · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject:

...I live in Oregon.