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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: It's a Jeep thang? |
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Got myself a new toy today!
2003 Rubicon, pretty much stock. 5 nice new Goodyear wranglers, dana 44's front/rear with electric lockers, inline 6 and 5spd, 4 to 1 low transfer case, both hard and soft tops...
Something new to spend money on. So.. if anybody is needing a 70 chevy pickup let me know. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well I'll be damned. B with two not-Chevy vehicles.
But in truth it was inevitable. Eventually everyone here will buy either a Jeep or a diesel. |
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Nice rig!
aaron_sK wrote: | Eventually everyone here will buy either a Jeep or a diesel. |
I'll pass, thanks. _________________
Quote: | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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aaron_sK wrote: | Well I'll be damned. B with two not-Chevy vehicles.
But in truth it was inevitable. Eventually everyone here will buy either a Jeep or a diesel. |
Even stranger, I have an inline with less then 8 cylinders! |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Nice, Jeep!
I'm getting pretty close to selling my Jeep, I think. It just sits all the time. Nice having an extra vehicle, though. I've got the 4.0L in my Jeep Cherokee. It's the only engine I've ever had where it seems to be less powerful as it revs up. Dang reliable though. |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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iansane wrote: | I'll pass, thanks. |
I'm surprised a vegetarian doesn't want their vehicle to drink bio fuels, too. You sure you aren't grilling steaks in secret? Got something to confess? |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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QwkTrip wrote: | It's the only engine I've ever had where it seems to be less powerful as it revs up. Dang reliable though. |
Typical straight six. Upshift for more power. |
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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QwkTrip wrote: | iansane wrote: | I'll pass, thanks. |
I'm surprised a vegetarian doesn't want their vehicle to drink bio fuels, too. You sure you aren't grilling steaks in secret? Got something to confess? |
Vegetarian != Hippie.
Actually I was grilling steaks yesterday! I had no idea what I was doing and didn't eat any of them though. I got down on some veggie burgers. _________________
Quote: | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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Richster Magic Fingers
Joined: 06 Oct 2008 Posts: 879 Location: The Black-Hole
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Beauty Dude!
My neighbor scored the new bright green color, really nice indeed!
That's cool man and a great purchase! _________________
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Well got a chance to jack up the front. As good as can be expected. One upper ball joint with a slight amount of play and the axle joints are on their way out, typical mopar product. I see the Rubicon has a SYE (jeep guys like acronyms too. Slip Yoke Eliminator) on it allready which is nice. Shocks are a bit weak.. think thats an excuse for 2" lift? |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:20 am Post subject: |
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SYE I've never heard on a stock TJ. It's aftermarket. And the driveshaft length is then dependent on ride height.
How many miles? I've got 90k and nothing in the front of mine is worn out? _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Twilightoptics wrote: | And the driveshaft length is then dependent on ride height. |
That depends on the amount of ride height change. That same style of driveline came from the factory on my Ford and I lowered it 5" in back and 4" in front without changing the driveline length. |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Rubicon has a 241OR transfer case instead of the 231. They dont come with a slipyoke. So the SYE is stock. Also has the really low 4:1 low range. Another rubi benefit! Just had to check that info with the wrangler forum too. It's got miles... But not beat up so I'm not too worried.
I guess technically its not an eliminator since it never had it.. but same end result. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: |
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aaron_sK wrote: | Twilightoptics wrote: | And the driveshaft length is then dependent on ride height. |
That depends on the amount of ride height change. That same style of driveline came from the factory on my Ford and I lowered it 5" in back and 4" in front without changing the driveline length. |
Except that the Jeep driveline is only like 6" long to begin with, so the height makes a bigger difference. I think they sell them in 2" lift increments. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Twilightoptics wrote: | Except that the Jeep driveline is only like 6" long to begin with |
True! I'm not keeping the wheelbase in mind.
I'm guessing you could get a shaft with a longer slip joint to solve that problem, though. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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That's what the difference basically.
If I ever get around to lifting mine more, I'll need to go SYE and CV shaft. $800 ontop of the lift isn't appealing lol. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Well I just drove 1800miles in less then a week. We just got back from Glacier Montana. Kinda ballsy taking a vehicle that I hadnt even had a chance to look over yet, but it ended up being the perfect rig for the trip.
On the way home with it from Puyallup last saturday I discovered that even though I'd taken it up to 60mph on the test drive, It shook to beat hell once I got over 70. Since we were leaving Sunday morning I couldnt do anything to fix it. So Sunday I drove all the way to Spokane at less then 70mph. Gas mileage amazed me! Even going over White Pass I still managed 20.3mpg, next tank was 20.7 mpg. Been filling up at just over 1/4 tank = 200miles and 10gals of gas.
In Spokane I got Schwabs to balance the tires Monday morning. Was worried there was something bigger wrong, but turned out to just be very unbalanced tires. 6oz off!! If I remember right 1oz = 50lbs @ 50mph approx. So no wonder it shook!
Now that I was able to go 80mph + the gas mileage dropped. I've never had a rig that speed changed the mileage so much before. Actually the 87 it gets better the faster you go. Closer to 3k rpm the more it likes it. Anyway, the one tank I used on I90 doing 85mph +, I got 17.3mpg. Still better then the government rating. @ 85mph I'm doing 3k rpm. After lots of other fillups the rule holds. Just running around here at 60mph I should be fine. Tires are the stock size/type/brand as the Rubi came with, 4.10 gears and a 3550 5spd.
Something I discovered thats kinda cool, it's like I joined some kinda brotherhood or something. Every jeep guy waves as he goes by! Rigs that are all set up for 4xing honk and wave as well. Not like they thought I was a local or anything, this happened the whole trip.
Oh, and 85mph in a jeep.. when you pass a semi truck you start to wonder which part is going to fly off first! The hood starts pulling against its rubber bands and the roof flaps so hard(hardtop too) that it smacks the roll bar.
The only thing I wish was different so far is that it had AC. |
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Al Hasse Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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chevymad wrote: | Something I discovered thats kinda cool, it's like I joined some kinda brotherhood or something. Every jeep guy waves as he goes by! Rigs that are all set up for 4xing honk and wave as well. Not like they thought I was a local or anything, this happened the whole trip.
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I noticed that too on the occasions when I had to borrow my brother-in-law's Jeep. _________________ 92 Camaro
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Make sure the roof is latched in the front. I did 90+ down to Bend, OR one time and never had any issues with the hardtop like that.
Lots of Wrangler waves. It's a Wrangler thing, not Jeep. Never got waves in the Cherokee and don't get waves from anyone not in a Wrangler.
What tire size? Didn't the Rubi's get 32s? Or they got the 31s I think. Don't remember.
Must be nice to have the extra gear ratio. At 60 with the 33" tires I can use 5th. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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You still have 3.73 right? I can see that wouldnt be optimum with 33s. Rubi's have 31s. Too early to tell where I'll go with this thing, tires are all brand spanking new Wrangler MTR"s so I wont be changing them for quite awhile. I'm thinking of only 32s someday. My shocks are pretty soft, so If I go to replace them soon I'll probably add 2" lift to it too.
How did you lift yours? Spacers? Control arms? 4"? Full of questions here. I can buy Rancho stuff from work. Looks like rancho 9000s are good shocks for wranglers too.
I had this brilliant idea last night that a Rubi rear could be used in a 3d gen. That way you'd get a Zexel type limited slip with a full air locker option, dana 44, 4.10s and rear disc brakes. Then I checked part.com.. $2700 for a jy rear in WA !!!! Guess that idea is out LOL. Probably would have worked too, rubi rear is 1.5" narrower then a 3d gen rear.
Oh the roof thing. Did you have your window open on your trip? I think you have AC, I don't so windows were open. Air comes in pretty smooth until you get behind a truck, then it starts gusting hard and flapping the roof until you get past it. |
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