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BluFbdy · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: i need v6 owners advice

So I've been toying with the white camaro getting it road worthy for when I yank the t5 out of mine for a rebuild and it seems no matter what I do this thing is weak as hello. New cap, rotor and plugs/ wires (helped a lot) and I readjusted the idle air because the guy I bought it from had the set screw all the way out, hecked timing tonight and it wad wayyyyyy off. Readjusted it to 10* with the est disconnected and it smoothed out, can't find any vacuum leaks. I took it for a drive and it took my foot to the floor to get it up to speed at 35, its making a lot of noise and no go. Doesn't feel like a slipping transmission. When I hit the gas it bogs for a second or two then gets the slightest increase in torque and slowly increases.

How weak are the 2.8's because at this rate I'm about to throw my 305 in this pile when I do my swap. The only thing I can think of is restabbing the dizzy to be safe and be sure that my 10* is really 10*. Just an off the wall question but the #1 cylinder is still the drivers front on a v6 correct? And also a random thingthe previous owner had the rear injector unplugged by the dizzy, is that a cold start? What would be the reason/ benefit of doing that?

Any ideas for me? The passenger side rear plugs had oil on them when I did the plugs, leaky valve guides and it smoked for a few mins when warming up and then went away, that's a known issue but I reaaaaly don't wanna yank this thing apart if I don't have to. I've driven golf carts that are faster than this thing.

Al Hasse · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:01 am Post subject:

#1 cylinder is the front passenger side, it's also the one tat sits the most forward on the block.

BluFbdy · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:14 am Post subject:

Xophertony · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:49 am Post subject:

MPFI V6? If so check tour throttle position sensor too. If those are off it can cause a hesitation and lack of power.

aaron_sK · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:21 am Post subject:

No need to restab dist, just move the wires around. Firing order for the 60* is shown here:

http://c.fixya.net/fixya20/uploads/Images/5810216.gif

If you are ever curious about what the #1 is on an engine just look for which cylinder is farther forward in the block. In hindsight it is very obvious on the 60* engines as the passenger head is quite a bit forward. Wink

If you reset the minimum air you do need to reset the TPS as it will be wrong. *Edit: Just noticed Tony's post. Reading comprehension fail for me! Razz

With the 700R4 that engine will always be somewhat of a dog. A T5 will wake them up but this is a ladies car so I would assume that is not a viable option.

chevymad · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:20 am Post subject:

BluFbdy · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:26 am Post subject:

Alrights so fix my timing blunder, check tps and reset minimum air, any other ideas? I just don't like having to put my foot so far into it just to hit 25 lol

blue89 · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:38 am Post subject:

aaron_sK · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:57 am Post subject:

BluFbdy · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:32 am Post subject:

Just covering my bases lol I've never had a v6 and I wanted to make sure my crap talking wasn't 110% true on them lol

aaron_sK · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:12 am Post subject:

Only partially. Laughing

I like the 60*, actually. If you pair them with a manual trans and a light car the later ones with the good bearings in them do fine.

BluFbdy · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:32 am Post subject:

It'll be good for my wife I just don't want it to be go cart status lol

chevymad · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject:

BluFbdy · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject:

Anyone know why that injector would have been unplugged? I plugged it back in and didnt see a difference in anything still cranks the same cold there or not

aaron_sK · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject:

In '89 V8 cars did not have a cold start. Is it possible that this engine came from an older car and the original chip was retained?

BluFbdy · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject:

Idk if it was cold start, it was back by the distributor on the drivers side facing towards the front of the car I doubt this guy swapped anything he wasn't exactly the brightest person I've met and he said he's had it for like 10 yrs

91RSVert · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:18 pm Post subject:

if it was on the back by the dizzy, it was an coldstart. People often unplugged them cause they start leaking. What they dont know is its the injector leaking, not caused by the wiring. Or they may have done some matience and forgot to replug it.

blue89 · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject:

The cold start isn't used until the outside temp is what, 20*F? I put a non-cold start rail in my V6.

aaron_sK · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject:

Unless the V6 uses a different sensor the cold-start system fires up to about 80* coolant temp IIRC.

John's car would not start cold without ether until we tuned the cold start into the chip.

RSFreak · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:41 pm Post subject: