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flea Member

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1246 Location: Raymond WA
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:11 pm Post subject: VSS |
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I need to ensure that my VSS is sending 4000 PPM to the ECM.
How do I go about this. Is there a cable and a bit of software that I can get to look to see whats going on. I guess I'm asking about data logging, I don't necessarily want to make changes without adult supervision (can you imagine all the ways I could mess that up ) But I do need to know that I have the correct ppm going on. _________________ Killing mailboxes since 2009 |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: VSS |
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| flea wrote: | | I need to ensure that my VSS is sending 4000 PPM to the ECM. |
If you're using the original VSS then it's not. |
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flea Member

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1246 Location: Raymond WA
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Ok. it is the original VSS. The ECM is a 7730, what I have been able to find is that I need 4K to the ECM or it runs like dodo.
I can't find any info on which speed sensor I need to get, any suggestions?
Edit. the buffer box is robbing some of it, isnt it. would this take care of the problem?
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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You need a '90 or newer multiport motor; TPI, veesix, or very early LT1.
There is also some scamming you can do with the ECM itself IIRC. We just had a thread on this not long ago... |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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He has a 91 VSS allready.. and the same vintage ecm. Don't think its the problem.
Or does tbi have a different VSS? |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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TBI retained the old-style VSS through '92.
Multiport cars went to the new style in '90.
*Edit: Quick check shows the following interchange:
'91-'93 Buick Roadmaster
'90-'93 Cadillac Fleetwood
'91-'93 Chevy Caprice
'90-'92 F-body 3.1L
'90-'92 F-body 5.0/5.7L TPI
'93' F-body 3.4L
'93 F-body 5.7L LT1 |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| And there's your answer Jim.. you need to replace your brand new VSS... |
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aaron_sK Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Still got that receipt? |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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flea Member

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1246 Location: Raymond WA
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| chevymad wrote: | | And there's your answer Jim.. you need to replace your brand new VSS... |
OK, I need to change to a sensor from one of these cars then?
| aaron-the_mountain_man_sk wrote: |
'91-'93 Buick Roadmaster
'90-'93 Cadillac Fleetwood
'91-'93 Chevy Caprice
'90-'92 F-body 3.1L
'90-'92 F-body 5.0/5.7L TPI
'93' F-body 3.4L
'93 F-body 5.7L LT1 |
| aaron-the_mountain_man_sk wrote: | | Still got that receipt? |
No, of course not. Besides it's all used and such. _________________ Killing mailboxes since 2009 |
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Leejo2005 Member

Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 466 Location: Kennewick
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| Firebirds got the 4K VSS a few years before the Camaros did. I'm not sure what year it started at but my '88 drivetrain has one. |
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flea Member

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1246 Location: Raymond WA
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:06 am Post subject: |
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cool, so it sounds like I need a bird VSS from the same years along with bypassing the buffer box and I should be golden. _________________ Killing mailboxes since 2009 |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | TBI retained the old-style VSS through '92.
Multiport cars went to the new style in '90.
*Edit: Quick check shows the following interchange:
'91-'93 Buick Roadmaster
'90-'93 Cadillac Fleetwood
'91-'93 Chevy Caprice
'90-'92 F-body 3.1L
'90-'92 F-body 5.0/5.7L TPI
'93' F-body 3.4L
'93 F-body 5.7L LT1 |
The VSS in my 89 TBI is 2000 ppm, run from the back of the speedo head, the electronic one would be on the tailshaft - my 89 even has the harness pigtail at the tailshaft tucked up and away in the frame rails. My 92 (V6, 3.1) is 4000 ppm, driven from the tailshaft. _________________ 92 Camaro
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