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RK82 Member

Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 168 Location: vancouver B.C
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject: Holley FTW |
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I know most of you guy are more into fuel injection but I've been messing with a edelbrock carb for while could never get the thing to run properly. I picked up a 600 vac secondary holley bolted it on didn't even have to adjust the idle car runs 10x better, butt dyno says a least 10 more HP . I am excited just thought I would share.
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| A good carb makes a huge difference in the butt dyno. Edelbrocks are usually dependable, but i've never seen one be the best choice. Glad to see the holley's working for ya! |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Have you ever seen an Edelbrock or Carter under the hood of any truly fast car?
Didn't think so.  |
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BigDaddyVu 12sec Club

Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 1118 Location: Spokane, Wa
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:14 am Post subject: |
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i have a couple of those works great and used them to break in engines. wait till you up grade to a street avenger. _________________
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:29 am Post subject: |
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What is this car-brew-at-uuurr you speak of?
I love that feeling of accomplishment when something actually works after install. _________________
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RK82 Member

Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 168 Location: vancouver B.C
1982 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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another thing I noticed today was with the edelbrock it didn't matter what I set the timing to or what jets/rods were in it, it always had that 3 rocks in a coffee can kind of pinging/knocking, completely gone with the holley I lugged it down to 1000rpm in 4 gear today foot to the floor it pulled out of it without one knock or ping  |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Nice! Wouldn't mind having one of those on the Berli.  _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
'85 Camaro Berlinetta - IROC clone
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Got a 4160 sitting on my bench right now, John.  |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | Got a 4160 sitting on my bench right now, John.  |
We can make that part of the deal...  _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
'85 Camaro Berlinetta - IROC clone
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Alphius Peanut

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:26 am Post subject: |
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A well-running CCC Q-Jet is IMHO way better than a Holley. The Q-Jet is the pinnacle of carburetor technology (whatever that's worth). It can get better gas mileage unlike a Holley with nearly the same power output at WOT with a couple simple tuning changes. The mixture control and timing control provided by the computer in this setup makes it even better. Just look at Brandon's 327. And a Carter/Edelbrock is just lame in every way, but we already knew that.
Keep in mind I'm not saying the Q-Jet is the end-all-be-all of carburetors, in a racing application frankly a Holley would probably be better. However, in day to day driving, and for simple flexibility, the Q-Jet gets my vote any day. If you want something that really is the best in every single situation, well then you might just have to find yourself some fuel injection and tune up the computer a bit.  _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
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rjmcgee The Hammer

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Holley double pumper. FTW
With 4.10 gears I got 18-20 mpg going to cows on more than one occasion. Just have to tune it. |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Good job on the swap. Do you still have an o2 sensor? I'd upgrade to a 4160 when you have the opportunity. I have an article someone on how to change to dual metering blocks if your interested although a bolt on 4160 would be easy to get ahold of. I have a 750 and 650 DP that I'm still playing with. After a cam upgrade I don't think I'll need the 650. It's had its choke horn shaved and upper throut area blended. Looks good, just too small for me. _________________ E30
86 RS - 7.4L V8 SOLD
89 RS - 3.25L V6 REMOVED
89 RS - 5.7L LT1 SOLD
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| blue89 wrote: | | I'd upgrade to a 4160 when you have the opportunity. |
You mean 4150. He already has a 4160.
| blue89 wrote: | | I have an article someone on how to change to dual metering blocks if your interested |
Yup. It is literally just a few bolts. |
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nonsensekid20 Member
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Gotta say I'm impressed with the Street Avenger. Haven't had a problem with it. |
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RK82 Member

Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 168 Location: vancouver B.C
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| blue89 wrote: | | Good job on the swap. Do you still have an o2 sensor? I'd upgrade to a 4160 when you have the opportunity. I have an article someone on how to change to dual metering blocks if your interested although a bolt on 4160 would be easy to get ahold of. I have a 750 and 650 DP that I'm still playing with. After a cam upgrade I don't think I'll need the 650. It's had its choke horn shaved and upper throut area blended. Looks good, just too small for me. |
nope, o2 sensor was long gone before I even bought the car. |
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RK82 Member

Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 168 Location: vancouver B.C
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | blue89 wrote: | | I'd upgrade to a 4160 when you have the opportunity. |
You mean 4150. He already has a 4160.
| blue89 wrote: | | I have an article someone on how to change to dual metering blocks if your interested |
Yup. It is literally just a few bolts. |
yup when I build a real motor or go LS I'll upgrade to a 4150HP |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh ya, one of those. What type of boosters does it have? I don't know what they came with. |
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RK82 Member

Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 168 Location: vancouver B.C
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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well it worked pretty good for a little while, then started bogging at 3000rpm
so I went to change to a stiffer spring for the secondary's and the little check ball was missing, I put a stiffer spring in it any way but it still bogged so I searched around on summitracing and found this proform vacuum diaphragm no more changing springs just turn the screw..lol
only thing I don't like is the purple, and now I am interested in the secondary metering block conversion, aaron what kit did you use? |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| RK82 wrote: | | only thing I don't like is the purple |
Rattle can that sucker!  _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
'85 Camaro Berlinetta - IROC clone
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RK82 Member

Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 168 Location: vancouver B.C
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| RSFreak wrote: | | RK82 wrote: | | only thing I don't like is the purple |
Rattle can that sucker!  |
can't see it with air cleaner on |
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