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QwkTrip

I picked up my new purchase this weekend. There was so much stuff that it filled the back of my truck and I had to put the rear axle on a trailer. Everything is documented and it's looking like this was a screaming deal! Here's the list of what I picked up:

- Erik Koenig built (HK Racing Engines) LQ4 iron block turbo motor 398 stroker. Custom cam, ported and polished 317 heads, Jesel rockers, Morel lifters.
- Twin turbo hot parts custom made by Limit Engineering for 4th gen F-body. Stainless headers with twin Precision 76mm T3 P-trim turbos tucked next to engine block. Turbosmart blowoff valve, and wastegates, Eboost2 turbo timer. Cold side tubing with large air-to-air intercooler. Includes MAF sensor.
- Methanol injection system and tank
- Jennings Engineering T56 transmission with cryo treated gears, bronze pads, billet keys, carbon fiber synchronizers, remove bleeder, and Viper mainshaft, Pro 5.0 Power Tower shifter
- McCloud twin disc clutch, and an aluminum flywheel
- seriously beefy driveshaft
- Moser 12 bolt, 3 channel, 3.73 gears, complete brake to brake with 4th gen emergency cables and sway bar
- BMR rear control arms, adjustable panhard rod, and adjustable torque arm
- 4th gen crossmember with remote torque arm mount
- Profab K-member (I sold it back to the seller so I didn't have to drag it home)
- QA1 adjustable coil over struts. Hypercoil rear springs.
- Laptop computer with HP Tuners and unlimited license for any 1999 car
- 4th gen plastic fuel tank with Nasty Performance Stage 3 1100 Hp kit. 2 Walbro 340 in tank pumps, hot wire kit, billet fuel rails, Magnafuel billet fuel pressure regulator w/boost reference, MagnaFuel billet stainless steel fuel filter, Aeroquip -8 braided stainless feed fuel line, -6 braided stainless return fuel line

I can tell you right now that the exhaust pipe downstream of the turbos will not fit my chassis. It splays out for a 4th gen chassis. The turbo headers are very compact, though, and would probably fit any vehicle. Whoever made the hot parts was a total genius with a TIG welder. It is a seriously nice job. The cold side was made by a different shop and that person just wasn't very good. It's made for a 4th gen so I can't use the cold side anyway. The intercooler is very nice but it's the wrong style for my car. I need a side to side and this one is a dual feed with top exit.

So now I have to decide what to do with this turbo kit. I can either make 3rd gen specific parts to complete it for my car, or I can sell it to the 4th gen crowd for a lot of money and make my whole engine swap project pretty cheap. This engine will still make an easy 500 RWHP naturally aspirated and I have an indestructible T56. Basically, it's a choice between a fairly cheap swap with lots of power, or an expensive swap with insane and unusable amount of power.

aaron_sK · Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:07 pm Post subject:

Just looking at it on the floor it almost looks like flipping the headers would be an option. Thirdgen engine bays are like a funnel, get smaller the farther you go down. Razz

Turbos for these cars are gonna be either forward, or to the side, not down low like that.

My two cents? Buy a set of LSx swap mounts and crossmember. Drop the longblock and trans in as a unit and then start mocking stuff up. Worst case scenario you have to have something cut and rewelded.

QwkTrip · Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:33 pm Post subject:

If the turbos don't fit where they are located then I'm selling the whole turbo kit. I can recoup about $5K.

iansane · Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject:

The turbos themselves look like they could fit but I'd be flabbergasted if the downpipes fit.

Either way, fricken awesome score.

QwkTrip · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject:

I called Magnuson today and they walked me through what parts I need to make a TVS 2300 supercharger kit for my car with this 398 stroker. It's basically a GTO kit with different intercooler and piping. Very expensive option, though. I was about floored by the price.

redlava · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:10 am Post subject:

I would go buy a welder and make that turbo'd motor fit. You will always want more power.

IROCDave · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject:

RSFreak · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:09 pm Post subject:

If it were mine, I'd make the turbo setup work. Why pay more for a super charger when you already have the turbo?! Wink

blue89 · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:06 pm Post subject:

BigDaddyVu · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject:

http://www.theturboforums.com/feature_cars/nic.php

QwkTrip · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject:

There is no way those turbos are going to fit. I don't even need to try. I need 30 inches side-to-side and I don't have anything close to that in the Firebird.

RSFreak · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:37 pm Post subject:

aaron_sK · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:48 pm Post subject:

RSFreak · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:11 pm Post subject:

Sounds good to me! Very Happy

aaron_sK · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject:

And just in case you think I'm BSing you, here's some Canadians doing exactly that... Wink

http://ccfbg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=11284

Looks like they had to bring them forward a bit to clear the shock towers, though.

iansane · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:33 pm Post subject:

Dewey316 · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject:

iansane · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:39 pm Post subject:

Yeah, you're probably right. I did some more measuring and you'd probably have to run them up high as long as they don't hit the valve cover or acc. I just realize the manifolds I used are the same ones used in the link aaron provided. Very Happy

aaron_sK · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject:

I thought you had longtubes on that engine, Ian?

iansane · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:43 am Post subject:

I do right now.