Cascade Crew

QwkTrip · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:42 pm Post subject: What's going price for used LS1?

I found this on ebay within driving distance of my house. What's going price these days? I notice $6K will get you a new LS3 crate engine, but it takes another $1.5K to get the wiring harness and accessories drive.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS1-engine-4L60E-transmission-2001-Camaro-SS-31K-/200518001582?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eafcde3ae#ht_811wt_1167

This same guy has a pair of LS1 ported heads (Lingenfelter) for $900.

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:54 pm Post subject:

$1300 bucks more and this guy will throw in a FREE CAMARO!!!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1959493910.html

QwkTrip · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject:

Things don't work that way in the midwest. Anything that old is usually total crap because of rust. That includes stuff in the engine bay. Finding a clean engine makes it more expensive.

Maybe I should just trailer a car back next summer when I visit home. Wink

iansane · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject:

FWIW, when I was talking to a buddy at the JY before I picked up my motor the LS1s themselves were typically selling for about ~2k with harness, no trans. The 6.0s were almost the same Mad

and the 5.3s were from 900-1300 depending on mileage.

I'm swapping my LSx for a rotary.

blue89 · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:49 pm Post subject:

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:56 pm Post subject:

QwkTrip · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject:

Yep, corrosion doesn't stop for aluminum either. Underhood of my 2000 Jeep looks like hell. Internals to those parts are not just aluminum.

They put so much salt on the roads in winter that it looks like snow. When it's not salt they use the liquid chemicals that are many times more harsh. All winter the vehicles are wearing a crusty layer of white salt. I don't care what color your car might be, in winter it is more or less white. Then after winter it's wet and humid all summer. It's hard to appreciate unless you experience it. I have tools that have rusted just from being inside the car.

QwkTrip · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject:

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:13 pm Post subject:

Damn Jon, I guess it is time to take a trip. Buy a new Jeep, toss an LS1 in the back of it, and drive back to the frozen midwest. Laughing

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject:

Midwest = Rust? Confused

Dewey316 · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:47 am Post subject:

QwkTrip · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:36 am Post subject:

Most vehicles have visual body problems within 8 years. It's rare to see a car on the road 15 years old. I've seen a '60s muscle car maybe 2 or 3 times in the last two years.

When I bought my Jeep it was in the best condition of the 10 examples I looked at. When it was 4 years old I installed the suspension and I had to use a nut splitter on nearly every bolt to get the old suspension off. Some bolts broke off at the base and I never did get them out. The trans crossmember is now hanging on studs that were welded in place. I never could remove the bumper myself. I had to take it to a shop where they spent 2 hours using air wrenches. The bolts were not able to be reused. A couple weeks ago I had to replace hose clamps under hood because one of the heavy factory cooling hose clamps had rusted apart and fell off. I'll be replacing the heater hose soon because the metal hose is rusted almost all the way through.

I replaced shocks on my 2000 Superduty last year. I had to use a saws-all on the rear bottom shock bolts. The Superduty is a 2WD and never even been on the salty roads. It's just been exposed to the environment.

The trailer I bought a few years ago is rusting up just sitting on gravel next to the house. I will have to sand blast and re-paint it next year.

The engine in my Firebird has rusted just sitting inside the garage. If it's not a painted, then it is rust red.

The tools in my tool box have to be oiled or they rust.

Get the idea now? Wink

chevymad · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:52 am Post subject:

Dewey316 · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:04 am Post subject:

It is certianly a salt. I thought that they included a rust inhibator in the liquid form they use though, with just rock salt (sodium chloride), there isn't the addition of a rust inhibator.

I will say, the liquid stuff does make a nasty mess of things though, that stuff coats up your wildshield and the entire car.

chevymad · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:05 am Post subject:

Liquid does awful thing to aluminum rims as well.

Since the state switched to rock salt though, they've allready rusted clear through the oil pan on the loader they use to move it! LOL

QwkTrip · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:11 am Post subject:

Calcium chloride is a more potent deicer than sodium chloride, but that also means it is more reactive and will corrode the car more quickly. The real nasty stuff is magnesium chloride. If you have that in your area then you are hosed. The entire frame on a Class 8 truck can rust through in a few seasons. And those guys with fancy sport cars and magnesium wheels better never set foot on the road until those salts are completely washed away.

If I remember correctly, Idaho was experimenting with magnesium chloride. Not sure where that stands now. Hopefully the morons that approved it have been slapped up side the head and changed their view point.

chevymad · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:16 am Post subject:

I believe they tried that here as well.

I know on my 40 year old truck, most of the rust just appeared in the last 5 years or so. Before that there was no surface rust on the chassis. Also my wheels get real eaten up and pitted from driving in the winter.

Yes.. just googled it and magnesium chloride is used in some areas. Current mix is salt water, calcium chloride and molasses for most of the state though.

http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/winter/anti.htm

Luckily we don't get much snow, but we do get enough ice that if it isnt raining in the winter they're dumping this stuff on the roads.

aaron_sK · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:20 am Post subject:

They started using salt in Seattle after the big storm two seasons ago. Time to buy an old Ford truck for winter driving. Wink

The thing that pisses me off the most is that this is a direct result of morons who can't drive. I've been driving RWD vehicles in snow since I was 16. I was driving the IROC through the entire snowstorm that triggered this mess. Rolling Eyes

*Edit: Brandon ninja'd me with the link. Laughing

IROCDave · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject:

I know, its a 5.3 but this is a good price. http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/pts/1949472098.html

400.00 bucks is cheap.

Xophertony · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject:

this is just another step toward planned vehicle obsolescence. if they all rust in a few years we can't drive old poluting cars can we?