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Dewey316

they are now crushing cars in california for racing. Looks like they have a thing for white thirdgens. Wink

FastElectrics · Member Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 35

wa.... I hope thats a photoshop job... it should be ileagal to do that to a thirdgen... such a shame....

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:41 pm Post subject:

Nazi Cali Bastards.

That is all.

-Schultzy

90RSrocks · Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject:

Well put, Schultzy.

That... is a crime No no no...

84transam383 · Banned Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 431 Location: bend, or

as is street racing illegal.....

Rolling Eyes

kidcamaro · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:57 am Post subject:

its also illegal to speed. should they be able to cursh your car for speedin? thats totally bs.

alloy · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:39 am Post subject: News article to go with pic

Here is the story to go with the pic above.

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Racing warning a real smash

Demolition drives home new L.A. law

By Jason Kandel
Staff Writer

SUN VALLEY -- Sending a stern message to street racers citywide, Mayor James Hahn and Chief William Bratton gave the order Tuesday to destroy a 1989 Chevrolet Camaro seized in an illegal race.

Enforcing a new city law that allows for the destruction of vehicles seized in street races, Bratton and Hahn gave the OK for a junkyard employee to flatten the Camaro with a 4-ton steel plate.

The warning to street racers was clear.

"We won't tolerate it," Hahn said during the event at Valley Junk on San Fernando Road. "This is a dramatic reminder what could happen if you're caught racing. Los Angeles is not a place to race."

The car was smashed under a new law sponsored by Councilwoman Wendy Gruel, whose Northeast V

alley district has been the scene of many street races -- some fatal.

Police have seized seven cars since the law took effect in September 2003. However, the Camaro was the first car to be crushed under the law, and came after a yearlong litigation process.

It was crushed because it was unfit to be resold at auction, police said.

"This is not a game," said Greuel, who was also on hand to view the demolition. "It's not a movie. It's a choice that has life-and-death consequences. It also has consequences for your vehicle."

Eight people have died this year in street races in the Valley.

"Eight people to date this year have lost their lives to drag racing-related accidents," Bratton said. "Eight people who should be alive today except for the mindless foolishness of this type of activity."

Jason Kandel, (818) 713-3664 jason.kandel@dailynews.com

Dewey316 · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:51 am Post subject:

California Motor Vehical Code.

23109. (a) No person shall engage in any motor vehicle speed
contest on a highway. As used in this section, a motor vehicle speed
contest includes a motor vehicle race against another vehicle, a
clock, or other timing device. For purposes of this section, an
event in which the time to cover a prescribed route of more than 20
miles is measured, but where the vehicle does not exceed the speed
limits, is not a speed contest.
(b) No person shall aid or abet in any motor vehicle speed contest
on any highway.

23109.2. (a) (1) Whenever a peace officer determines that a person
was engaged in any of the activities set forth in paragraph (2), the
peace officer may immediately arrest and take into custody that
person and may cause the removal and seizure of the motor vehicle
used in that offense in accordance with Chapter 10 (commencing with
Section 22650). A motor vehicle so seized may be impounded for not
more than 30 days.
(2) (A) A motor vehicle speed contest, as described in subdivision
(a) of Section 23109.
(B) Reckless driving on a highway, as described in subdivision (a)
of Section 23103.

Section 23103

23103. (a) Any person who drives any vehicle upon a highway in
willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is
guilty of reckless driving.
(b) Any person who drives any vehicle in any offstreet parking
facility, as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 12500, in willful
or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty
of reckless driving.

I'm not going to post 12500, as it just talks about reckless driving on private property ect.

The point of this is, according to california state law, the car can only be impounded for 30days. WTF is the Ciry of LA going to do, give the kid a crushed car back after 30days? I'm not standing up for street racers, I am sure we all agree it stupid, but crushing the cars is a little much IMHO. And it violates the california motor vehical code also.

alloy · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:04 am Post subject:

Well I agree that crushing the car is severe, but as the article said, 8 lives were lost due to street racing. 8 lives. Think about that. Think if it were your brother or sister that was killed.

Now to you younger people on here that may not mean much, but after raising kids and then them having grand kids, if one of my kids or grand kids got killed in a street racing accident I'd have a different opinion. I'd want all street racer's cars crushed.

From what I can see and read, they have tried everything to stop street racing, and nothing has worked. This is a way to give kids the message if you street race you will lose. Maybe your car, or maybe your life. Your choice.

I can't say I support this law completely, but there is no car in the world worth a human life to me.

So, go ahead and blast me now for saying all this.

kidcamaro · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:59 am Post subject:

lots more people die every year because of speeders. yet they dotn crush their cars. crushing the car has got to the stupidest idea i have ever heard of. i also agree that street racing is dumb. luckily when i used to do it no one ever got hurt. what are they gonna think of next? if you rob someones house are they gonna demolish yours?

alloy · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:20 pm Post subject:

Dewey316 · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:00 pm Post subject:

Dan,

Street racing is a problem, we all know that. I agree it is recless, it is wrong, and i pisses me off when they kill someone. Part of the problem though, is in LA they have closed down all the drag strips. Since the car was first invented. People are not going to stop racing, no matter what the police do. The best option, is to give them a safe place to race, which will still never stop it. look at portland, you can drag race 3 times a week, all summer in portland, people still race. Just as they will still race if you crush cars. All this is doing, is asking for trouble, and mark my words, in the end, this law will empower the racers even more. it is just a matter of time until some kid gets picked up racing daddy's BMW, and Daddy is either a lawyer, or has a big team of lawyers. They are openeing a can of worms, by not really dealing with the problem pro-activly.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:08 pm Post subject:

All points agreed with. I have definatly seen a decrease in racing in the vancouver area since portland open PIR on friday/saturday nights. Those nights are when street racing around here would happen the most.

Part of it, like most anything illegal, is now that there is a safe place to do it legally, it's not as fun for these people to do on the street because in a way it is less defiant.

FastElectrics · Member Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 35

Well of course 'street racing' is dumb.. I'd rather race on a closed course. but one thing I'm wondering is how many after that Camaro have been crushed. since as stated above "It was crushed because it was unfit to be resold at auction, police said" So obviously the car had other issues too.

kidcamaro · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject:

if they crushed it cuz it was unsafe to be sold at police auction then thats what they should say. they shouldnt include that in a story about street racing and say they are cracking down and blah blah. i wonder how many people have stopped racing for fear of their car gettin crushed? im willing to be none have.

chevymad · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:07 pm Post subject:

Personally I dont see why they need a law to crush cars involved in street racing. There are laws on the books allready to deal with this. It really has nothing to do with the car either. It's the driver. If you get caught racing you should loose your license. If you get caught driving without a license then you should be in jail. If you continue to do so the jail time should get longer and longer. Why is it the cars fault at all? Auction off the cars. That's BS about not being worthy for auction. How many of us would have loved to buy that for like $300 and part it out? Even if it was so rusty you could see the yellow line while you drive.

As far as killing someone while your street racing, theres allready laws for that too. Vehicular manslaughter, too fast for conditions, speeding, all kinds of laws you could add on there. Again why crush the car? If theyre proven guilty auction that thing off to somebody who could use it.

California is really turning up the heat on car enthusiasts lately.. Anybody have an idea why? Just recently i've read posts about this car crushing, performance enhancing mods will get you a ticket now in San Diego(even cosmetic ones), kit/rod shop cars loosing their titles(boyds shop busted), and emissions testing for all cars regardless of year.... Whats going on down there? Whatever it is I hope it dont spread! If I had to live in Cali think i'd write in Leno for gov. Figured Arnie would have been more of a car guy....

chevymad · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:10 pm Post subject:

Thinking about it a bit more.. I bet that 3d gen just wouldnt pass emissions. Then was deemed unworthy of auction.

The scariest thing about the car crushing law is that they left it up to the officer to define "street racing".. In other words, imagine the crew doing a cruise.. and having all of our cars crushed? Shocked

Midnight Sun · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:12 pm Post subject:

I skipped a bunch of post without reading... Very Happy

My thoughts, it is nice to see that street racing is getting enforced. Because I, for one, am totally against it.

However, smashing the cars seems so... immature "Fine... if you are gonna race we are gonna crush your car. Neener neener neener." It would make more sense to part out the cars, or resell them. I mean, most people a lot of money into their cars with high performance pieces and whatnot, and if the state were to turn around and sell these for a cheap price I bet they could make money. Because there are people who LEGALLY race who would pay the government for a camaro rather then just "making a statement" and crushing it.

Just my $ .02