Cascade Crew

[aaron_sK]

So ever since I bought this Furd I've been having a lean condition, and an off-idle stumble. Got it narrowed down to a vacuum leak, but couldn't find anything via carb cleaner.

On a wild hare, I was reading a Ford truck forum about Ford's can of beans vacuum canisters rusting out. Now this truck has never been registered out of this state all the way back to November of '94, so I was highly dubious of the rust theory. but sure as s*** the thing was leaking out of the seams and the seal.

Solving this problem seemed painfully easy. I went down to Pull-A-Part and $2.50 later I had the "orb of power" out of some early 90's Chevy Astro. It's made of plastic (take note, Ford engineers).

Instantly solved the problem, and now I have Chevy parts in this Ford too (alternator in the Monterey is a 12si ).

Now if I could only get the 302 to make any power without having the snot revved out of it.

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[fiveoformula]

Id have made one out of this... haha

[iansane]

Nice fix Aaron. Orb of power rules all.

[aaron_sK]

That's pretty much what Ford did. The design of their can is identical to the larger Pork'n'Beans-style cans you get at the grocery store.

I also found that the EGR vacuum solenoid was not closing all the way, causing a small amount of constant vacuum at the EGR valve. Another trip to the junkyard netted me a fix for that to.

Both of those fixes along with resetting the timing are pushing the mileage up to around 13-15 hard-driven city. Better than the IROC, worse than the S10.

[fiveoformula]

Well this isn't quite the right can, I couldn't find a pic of "F-150 Beef" though.

[aaron_sK]

Heh. I didn't catch that the first time around.

[fiveoformula]

It's a thinker.
Don't know much about fords, did the pickups have the same F.I. as the mustangs? how come they aren't a low end beast?

[aaron_sK]

Only similarity between the car and truck 302's of this era (AFAIK) is the displacement. Trucks got different intake, heads, cam, compression, and exhaust. They also got batch fired injectors, MAP vs. MAF, and single vs. dual O2 sensors. They ran dual inline cats after the Y, instead of one cat off each manifold before the Y-pipe.

I just think it's kind of funny that my old 3.8 T-Bird had dual cats, dual O2's, and MAF. Silly Ford.

[chevymad]

I think the puny 3" stroke is probably why they arent a low end beast. Why ford thought the 302 would make a good truck motor is beyond me.

[aaron_sK]

Yup. .48 inches makes a world of difference.

The cruel irony is that the truck intake is tall, sorta like a TPI, so it doesn't like to spin. But the 302 only makes power when it's spun up.

[fiveoformula]

Gotta stroke that thing! isn't a 347 the magic number for those mustang guys? lol

[aaron_sK]

Yup. Until their block splits.

Right now my current theory is to not do anything to the engine that isn't free, or nearly free, as I doubt it will stay in there very long.

That said I've got no firm plans on a replacement yet. Not gonna be a gasser V8 though. That's for sure.

[91RSVert]

drop a 2010 cummings in that thing. Test drove one of them last weekend. OMG

[aaron_sK]

Aren't those the ones with the *cough* urine injection?

I was seriously looking at a baby Cummins swap (4BT) but the markup for those engines (and the 6BT's) is outrageous. People want 1500-2000 for a used engine. Then I'd still have to get an adapter plate to bolt it to the Ford trans (400 bucks), and all the other goodies.

The upside is that allegedly all you need to build are the upper mounts. Everything else is bolt-up to swap one of them into a 4x4 F150.

[91RSVert]

urine injection????

I dont know which motors are what as I just now started paying attention to the cummings. All I know is years AFAIK, all of them are strait 6/360ci.

[chevymad]

Mercedes started it, but injecting urea into the exhaust of a diesel gets rid of NOx compounds.

[aaron_sK]