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HONDASLAYER Member

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:14 pm Post subject: No heater core ???? possibly |
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I wonder what the harm would be if I disconnected the hot water lines leading to and returning from my heater core.??? My maro has been getting really hot lately and i'm thinking that if i do this the coolent will get circulated quiker and help keep me running cooler....
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Does anyone have any ideas on this???? _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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if you still have the vacume valve hooked up, it shouldn't be circulating coolant to the heater core anway.
Another thing to consider, is that with the heater core, you have more coolant in the system, and the heater core also acts like a small radiator, your cooling should be better with coolant flowing to the heater core. |
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cameron7710 Member

Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 813 Location: shoreline,Wa
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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what he said ^^
now if u want to keep the engine cool turn your heater on full blast. only bad part is u might die from the heat _________________
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HONDASLAYER Member

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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ok sooooo not a good idea..!!!! _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| if it is getting hot, i would start by making sure the cooling system is in good shape. Pressure test it, and flush it. Also, make sure your fan(s) are working and that the shrouds are there, along with the air-dam. |
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aaron_sK Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Dewey316 wrote: | | Another thing to consider, is that with the heater core, you have more coolant in the system, and the heater core also acts like a small radiator, your cooling should be better with coolant flowing to the heater core. |
+1 on this. I have personally shorted several heater cores due to leaks, or test setups. It causes quicker heatup, and slightly hotter temps overall.
On your carbed car, take a look at your timing curve, and your t-stat. Also, are you basing this off a stock gauge or idiot light? |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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His car doesn't have Heater valve. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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HONDASLAYER Member

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | Dewey316 wrote: | | Another thing to consider, is that with the heater core, you have more coolant in the system, and the heater core also acts like a small radiator, your cooling should be better with coolant flowing to the heater core. |
+1 on this. I have personally shorted several heater cores due to leaks, or test setups. It causes quicker heatup, and slightly hotter temps overall.
On your carbed car, take a look at your timing curve, and your t-stat. Also, are you basing this off a stock gauge or idiot light? |
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well I pulled the t stat out when i did the intake, How do i LOOK at my timing curve? I'm basing this off of the stock gage plus that when it's fully hot I'm having heat issues like hot stalls and vapor locking after stalls, not to mention not being able to shift into 1st or 2nd while stopped. I didn't have these spoblems when it was cooler. _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| are you running it without a t-stat? if you are, put one back in. |
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HONDASLAYER Member

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Dewey316 wrote: | | are you running it without a t-stat? if you are, put one back in. |
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but doesn't running without one cause me to run cooler? I've done this to almost all of my cars with great success. _________________
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aaron_sK Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| No t-stat causes overheating. Coolant flows through the radiator so fast that it is not cooled by the air movement. Spend a couple bucks on a 160* stat and some orange goop, and you're good. |
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HONDASLAYER Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | No t-stat causes overheating. Coolant flows through the radiator so fast that it is not cooled by the air movement. Spend a couple bucks on a 160* stat and some orange goop, and you're good. |
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so is the best t stat for me to get a 160*degree one? _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| I honestly wouldn't go that cold. I would get like a 180-185 ish. Also, make sure you have the air dam on the car, and that your fan is working, and that you don't all the air out of the system. maybe a new radiator cap, if you aren't holding pressure. |
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HONDASLAYER Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| Dewey316 wrote: | | I honestly wouldn't go that cold. I would get like a 180-185 ish. Also, make sure you have the air dam on the car, and that your fan is working, and that you don't all the air out of the system. maybe a new radiator cap, if you aren't holding pressure. |
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what is that ? what about the t-stat i pulled out, it's not frozen or anything? _________________
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: |
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What temp is the t-stat you pulled out?
The air dam is a plastic 6" x 2.5" plastic piece that hangs below the radiator to force air up into the rad.
Bypassing the heater core wont cool anything.
Not enough timing will cause you to heat up too. Also a worn out water pump can cause over heating. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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Al Hasse Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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My 89 has been missing the air dam underneath since I bought it. I've only overheated it once and that's when the fan motor ate itself. It indirectly forces air through the radiator by creating a low pressure area under the engine. I need to get off my butt one day a go get another. _________________ 92 Camaro
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:19 am Post subject: |
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My '85 IROC hated the freeway without the air dam. Especially on 90º+ days. Suprised yours doesn't! Mine even had the goofy hypertech chip that turned the fans on at like 100º. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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HONDASLAYER Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | What temp is the t-stat you pulled out?
The air dam is a plastic 6" x 2.5" plastic piece that hangs below the radiator to force air up into the rad.
Bypassing the heater core wont cool anything.
Not enough timing will cause you to heat up too. Also a worn out water pump can cause over heating. |
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Paul, can you help me out with determining the timing? _________________
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Sure _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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HONDASLAYER Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Are you available today Paul ?.? _________________
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