| View previous topic :: View next topic | 
	
	
		| Author | Message | 
	
		| aaron_sK Member
 
 
 Joined: 23 Jan 2006
 Posts: 8834
 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
 
 1987  Chevrolet  Camaro IROC-Z
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Oil in the water, no water in the oil |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| Found a little milkshake foam under the radiator cap in the Monterey. Checked the oil and trans fluid and both were clean. Bypassed the radiator trans cooler (ran it straight through the auxiliary) and changed the oil. 
 Drove it maybe 15 miles and there is noticably more oil in the coolant, however still no water in the crankcase.
 
 She's gonna have to come back apart either way (once the weather cools down, triple digits suck). However I am curious as this is the first water/oil swap I've ever had that didn't go both ways. Could it be due to the high oil pump pressure (35-90 psi with RP 15-40)?
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
 
  
 Joined: 13 Jan 2004
 Posts: 9191
 Location: Auburn , WA
 
 1987  Chevrolet  Camaro IROC-Z
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:30 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| It'll go both ways at some point. 
 Don't think a HV pump would do it. Sounds like a blown head gasket, cracked block.
 _________________
 A redline a day keeps the carbon away!
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| aaron_sK Member
 
 
 Joined: 23 Jan 2006
 Posts: 8834
 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
 
 1987  Chevrolet  Camaro IROC-Z
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| I've got my fingers crossed for a gasket problem, Paul. Gonna have to come apart either way. 
 Sux...
  |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| kurfbird Member
 
 
 Joined: 02 Mar 2005
 Posts: 866
 Location: Whidbey Island
 
 
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:31 pm    Post subject: head gasket |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| Yes sounds like a head gasket. 
 I have them blown with just bubbling in the overflow.  No water in the oil or oil in the water.
 
 Good luck
 _________________
 kurfbird
 
 1991 Camaro 3.1 v6
 1991 Firebird 3.1 v6
 1992 Formula 350 5.7
 
 700r4 Transmissions
 
 brucesthirdgenparts.com
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| izcain 9sec Club
 
 
 Joined: 09 Sep 2006
 Posts: 1306
 Location: Port Angeles WA
 
 1983  Chevrolet  Camaro Z/28
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| seen them wic up thru the head studs. Are you running studs or bolts? _________________
 
   1983 Z28 383 + 201ci more = New Heart for this season!
 9.17 @ 148
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
 
  
 Joined: 13 Jan 2004
 Posts: 9191
 Location: Auburn , WA
 
 1987  Chevrolet  Camaro IROC-Z
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				|  	  | izcain wrote: |  	  | seen them wic up thru the head studs. Are you running studs or bolts? | 
 
 I've seen water come through the head bolts too that's why you use sealant. But your not going to get lots of oil in the rad that way. It's usually water in the oil which he says he doesn't have.
 _________________
 A redline a day keeps the carbon away!
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| chevymad Master B
 
 
 Joined: 11 Jan 2004
 Posts: 5476
 
 
 1987  Pontiac  Formula
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| Oil in the radiator means a pressurized oil passage is near a water passage. Thats the only way oil can go against the 14psi of water pressure in the radiator. 
 Is there pressurized oil in the heads on this motor? Or does all the oil come up the pushrods? I know on a chevy the pushrods are the feed so there is no way for a head gasket to cause oil the water.
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| aaron_sK Member
 
 
 Joined: 23 Jan 2006
 Posts: 8834
 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
 
 1987  Chevrolet  Camaro IROC-Z
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| @ Zach - Just stock-style bolts. 
 @ Brandon - No oil through the pushrods at all. Solid rods with shaft-mount rockers. IIRC (been awhile since I primed it) oil comes up around the bolts that hold the shaft assembly to the head.
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| chevymad Master B
 
 
 Joined: 11 Jan 2004
 Posts: 5476
 
 
 1987  Pontiac  Formula
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| Ah so very possible for a bad head gasket to do this.. lucky. |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		|  |