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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: boat carb fun Reply with quote

So I took the carb in my boat apart for a seasonal clean. Since I have been reading a bunch on holley carburetor stuff I figured I'd give it a go. Plus the boat has been needing a little extra umph. When I took the throttle plate off I had the idea. So I ground down some new screws, shaved the shaft down, and sudo knife edged the throttle plates. Looks much better and took me less than an hour. Mainly used my sanding paddle wheel on my right angle grinder and a triangle file. I shaved the screw heads down further than from the picture and I did both sides and some red threadlock too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the boat fired up in the back yard. Without changing any settings the engine idled at 350rpm and was smooth! Looked odd to see the pulley's spinning so slow. So I bumped up the idle to 700rpm and called it done. Also cleaned out my backfire suppressor. Should be a wakeboarding machine!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweeeeet! I finally got the stereo installed in mine after having it sit on the counter for 3 or 4 seasons. Laughing Hit the lake on Sunday and I'm going back out on thursday!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What engine is in yours? I'm thinking a cold air intake on mine would make a huge difference.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.boatcrazy.com/images/sale_owner/2009_malibu_016.jpg

Minus the shnazzy exhaust. Indmar 350. I think it's just a marine version of the vortec motor just a bit more hp.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might be scoring a TBI setup from a Mercury. That would be fun to have on the boat. Do you have a cold air intake tract on your boat? I'm thinking about doing something like that so I can get some cooler air into the engine. I bet it's sucking in some pretty warm air especially when you are sitting there for a while waiting for someone to get in the water. I was just going to put a normal contained filter housing on it (no filter) and then run the duct over by the side vents. Sounds reasonable as long as it doesn't suck up water, right?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanna put TPI on a boat motor Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be fricken sweet! I'd just need to convert mine to chevy Crying or Very sad Or I could go mustang or F150 mpfi 5.0L.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
I might be scoring a TBI setup from a Mercury. That would be fun to have on the boat. Do you have a cold air intake tract on your boat? I'm thinking about doing something like that so I can get some cooler air into the engine. I bet it's sucking in some pretty warm air especially when you are sitting there for a while waiting for someone to get in the water. I was just going to put a normal contained filter housing on it (no filter) and then run the duct over by the side vents. Sounds reasonable as long as it doesn't suck up water, right?


TBI could be a cool swap but I second the TPIish stuff. Very Happy

Actually, even during the summer whenever I've popped the engine cover it doesn't "seem" that warm down there. The intake plenum on mine puts the filter over on the starboard side right near one of the intake vents anyways. I religious run the blower as well as keep the vents full open to get circulating air in there. Who knows. I wonder if they have boat dynos. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea, aslong as your running the blower, it doesnt get "too" hot. But if you can easly duct it for fresh air, I dont see how it would hurt.

if you go ford, go with the truck 5.4, or a 4.6s/c Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

91RSVert wrote:
if you go ford, go with the truck 5.4, or a 4.6s/c Twisted Evil


pfft. You're looking at LSx prices there. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said, if he keeps it ford.

Now if he goes chevy, yea, Id love to see an LSx in one Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/boat2.JPG

http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/boat1.JPG
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that would be pretty sweet! Does anyone know if you can simplify the plumbing on a raw water cooled marine engine? Mine has hoses everywhere and I'd like to change the intake and play with it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: boat carb fun Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
So I took the carb in my boat apart for a seasonal clean. Since I have been reading a bunch on holley carburetor stuff I figured I'd give it a go. Plus the boat has been needing a little extra umph. When I took the throttle plate off I had the idea. So I ground down some new screws, shaved the shaft down, and sudo knife edged the throttle plates. Looks much better and took me less than an hour. Mainly used my sanding paddle wheel on my right angle grinder and a triangle file. I shaved the screw heads down further than from the picture and I did both sides and some red threadlock too.

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what's the benifit of filling down the screw heads on the carb. Also would it do any good if i did the same on my new holly for my maro?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It decreases the obstructed area and lets more air through the carburetor.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
It decreases the obstructed area and lets more air through the carburetor.

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So it just as simple as filling down the heads and thats it or do i need to re-enforce it or anything? also can you send me a pm. of the kinds of little modds i can do to my carb before i put it on?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am by no means a carb guy. I am learning as I go. I'm trying to help out my 650 and experimented on my 350. I do have the "How to build horsepower vol.2" by david vizard though. And since I have two motors that are undercarbed and I thought I would try it. I'll quote from his book some numbers:

Stub stack or choke horn removal +45 CFM
butterfly and shaft streamlining +35 to 50 CFM (depending on throttle bore)
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