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GREG DAVIDSON
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Odd engine questions Reply with quote

as most of you know im doing an engine swap an i kinda was thinking bout rebuilding the blown motor depending on what i find so heres my questions will all 350 parts fit on the 305 block ? and if if so what kinda horse is it good for or is it just a better idea to find a 350 and build it? this will be my first build any opinion helps so let e have it guy's Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What 350 parts are you talking about?
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GREG DAVIDSON
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mainly top end intake, heads, cam not shure i'd rather just build top end but i'm not shure i just like to get stuff figgured out before i start
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will all bolt up, but using 350 heads, will drop your compression down. The cam may/may not work well. The intakes are the same though.

I would start off, by instead figuring out your budget, and a basic goal you are going for. Then figure out which route is going to be the best way to get there.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea i'm shooting for around 350-400 hp is what i want but i prob wont get there =( low compression is bad for hp isnt it
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

305's are bad for it to. Wink Instead of spending money rebuilding the 305, use that money to rebuild a 350. No cost difference in rebuid costs. Your only cost difference would be in getting a used 350 (cheap). If you are going to buy pistons/rods the 350 pistons are probably cheaper.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats what i was thinking just kinda wanted to hear it from more people than me i know i can get 350 blocks all day long on craigslist cheap cheap maybe just go that route
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya id say just go 350
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definatly go with the 350. At that power level stock rods and crank should work fine. Even 2 bolt will work, though 4 bolt blocks are pretty easy to find. Most stock heads will suck. Especially if taken off of a truck, unless its a vortec. 96 up vortec truck motor would be an especially good one to find I think. Set up for roller and has good heads on it allready. Havent researched it, but there may be some differences in the timing cover area. An L98 wouldnt be a bad start either. I'm using a set of L98 heads I've ported on my truck, and they seem to work pretty well. 70s era blocks will be good, but arent set up for factory roller cams. Heads of that era are complete garbage. If you can afford it at all, step up to forged pistons. Remember the shortblock you build will be the limit to your future power level. Heads, cams, blowers, nitrous.. all can be added later, but its a whole new motor if you didnt build it to take the abuse.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a 350 in a surburban. Might be a 4 bolt main, but definately is a roller motor with a 1 piece rear main. Good thing about this one if you can hear it run and probably pull it yourself and get all the little extra parts you may need.

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/883583759.html
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most likely 2 bolt, definatly roller and 1 piece main like dan says. Good motor, just throw away heads and put on a set of vortecs or aftermarket.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that blocks gone but thanks for the lookout guys i'll def put up another thread before i buy yea i want the vortec heads kinda like to build it myself but im kinda afraid i'll mess somthing up but i'm still going to try Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what kinda fuel pump changes would i have to do to carberate it my guess is the pump in the tank isnt good enough do i need to put an inline fuel pump in ? or just find a block that has a manual pump on it i really dont wanna take the tank out
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Run the intank pump with an oil pressure switch. So if you don't have oil pressure the pump shuts down. Ideal for crashes, etc. Make sure it has power on the cranking cycle though.

Then run a $70 regulator. It uses both feed and return lines then 1 line goes to the carb at the proper 3-4psi.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about just buying a cam that has the pushrod lobe on it, and buying a $16 NAPA pump? he's building it anyways, right?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quasi-Traction wrote:
what about just buying a cam that has the pushrod lobe on it, and buying a $16 NAPA pump? he's building it anyways, right?


You price a Roller cam with a lobe lately? Plus then he has to take the tank out to get the pump off so he's not sucking through the pump. Also it may not pull through the stock filter.

And the napa pumps have been crap in recent years. Holley and Carter are the way to go.

All seems like way more work and cost.
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