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Twilightoptics
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Line Lock Reply with quote

So I've got a hurst linelock to install.

The instructions are showing to install it After the prop valve/combo valve. It's a dual reservoir Master. Two lines (front/rear) from the master to the combo valve. One line to the rear and one to left and one to right.

The instructions show plugging one of the front brake line ports on the combo valve, running the remaining to the line lock, then running a left and right line from the linelock.

This seems redundant. Is there are reason I cannot just install this inline before the combo valve, on the single line from the master that controls the front brakes?

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-Paul
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll cause a pressure imbalance in the prop valve, making the valve switch to one side and only using half your brakes. Also will turn on the brake light.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird. I just though it locked the pressure down same as if you were still pushing your foot on the pedal.

Thanks for the Info B.

Guess I'll go get some more lines. Or delete the combo valve all together and get an adjustable prob for the rear.

I don't have a brake light :O)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got out the rule book (NHRA) and sure enough it states:

"If brake system includes a differential pressure switch, line-loc installed on front brakes must have solenoid installed after the differential switch. All line-locs (electric or hydraulic) must be self-returning to normal brake operating mode."
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put an adjustable prop valve in there and get rid of the factory one. Then you won't have that problem!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe If I get around to spending the $ on one of those, I think the camaro needs it first!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got mine for $20. Well worth it, especially since you have a weird brake setup going on. Are you going to keep the S10 drum brake rear?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeping the drums until I can talk Rodney out of one of his stock rear thirdgen setups. The backing plate mounting should be the same. All an S-10 rear is.... is a thirdgen rear shorter with different mounting. Everything else is the same, (Bearings/gears/seals/etc)

The chevette has drum rear. But I think it's still a 3/16 line while the s-10/thirdgen is a 1/4 line IIRC. I might be redoing it at some point. We'll see how it stops with what's in there.

Where did you get an Adjustable Prop valve for $20? The cheapest I've seen is the wilwood for about $45.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got it used, but its a wilwood. Was a pain to get all the adapters for it. You're right that the S10 is narrower. Are you hoping to do a disk brake swap? You're keeping the rear leaf springs right?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twilightoptics wrote:
The cheapest I've seen is the wilwood for about $45.


thats what i just paid for mine. but its still not here! Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
I got it used, but its a wilwood. Was a pain to get all the adapters for it. You're right that the S10 is narrower. Are you hoping to do a disk brake swap? You're keeping the rear leaf springs right?


I can get a generic one through work which looks just like the wilwood without the logo... for $40 with 3/16 IF fittings.

No leaf springs Cool Very Happy 3-Link
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the problem is finding the fittings to screw into your master cylinder. and you are going to have to flare lines like crazy.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piece of cake and done. Pictures soon.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet! wanna see, wanna see!

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