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STEEL

Twice in two days, Good for me!

Alright, when I took my 350 block to bud to see if it would work he said to strip it down, and to bring him the heads, the fly wheel, the pressure plate, and the block. I know what the fly wheel is, and I have some guess what the pressure plate is. Either way, getting them out of the 85 would be an undertaking.

Having them balanced would rock, but I am trying not to spend too much money (I am not sticking to my budget really well =/ ) so new ones are out of the question. How much am I looking at for bone yard parts?

Xophertony · Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:26 am Post subject:

uhh... you are going to have to pull it all out anyway to put the new stuff in, might as well pull it now. if you pull the engine and transmission as a whole you can disassemble it out of the car and save alot of hassle. you are going to need to know how to do it to get it all back together later, might as well learn now.

ask schultzy if you can have a fast car and not know how to work on it yourself..

aaron_sK · Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:00 am Post subject:

Are you sure you're sticking with the T-5? Dropping the cash for a complete balance would suck if you find your killing the trans and have to upgrade.

STEEL · Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject:

now that you mention it, I am NOT keeping the T-5..... Its already got a bad 2nd gear synch.... are the fly wheels/pressure plates different?

*n00b*

aaron_sK · Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject:

Depends on what you're replacing it with. Assuming it's a T-56, if you're going with an LT1 T-56 like mine or Ian's it's different, but an LS1 T-56 with bellhousing adaptor like Paul has would use a T-5 clutch and fly.

Sellmanb · Member Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 727 Location: Tigard, OR

Hey man, sorry if this is a stupid question, but are you having Bud build you a stroker motor w/ a 400 crank? Or just rebuild a 350? Cuz if he's just rebuilding a 350 and wants to balance it externally then run, run as fast as you can.

If you are having it stroked w/ a 400 crank, then you need to find the correct flywheel for whatever transmission you plan to use (T56?). No sense in having it balanced twice like mentioned above.

I dont know why he would need the pressure plate? I thought they were neutrally balanced....

STEEL · Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:12 pm Post subject:

He is doing a stroker 383 for me. So, I need to decide what kind of trans I want now... GRRR!!!!!

Ok, the T-10 comes to mind because it would probably be cheaper to get a T-10 than a T-56. Is there a table that shows the gear ratios of a T-5, a T-56, and a T-10?

Also, this is a stupid question, but he wouldn't be able to balance the pressure plate and the flywheel later would he?

You said that I can use a T-5 flywheel and pressure plate, but then I need an LS1 T-56? How much will that cost?

Edit: I want to have the black car down for as short of a time as possible, which is why I dont want to pull the vital parts of the tranny out till nessesary. In this neighborhood we cant have dead cars in the driveway =/

Xophertony · Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject:

just buy a new flywheel and (once you pick a transmission) clutch. you are going to need a clutch anyway, and flywheels are cheaper then you might thing (less then $100). then you can keep the car running longer.

if you wanted you could also get an aluminum flywheel. Very Happy

spec sells them for around $400. you would have a slightly quicker revving engine, but at the cost of a bit of torque. it would certainly free-rev alot faster. Cool

STEEL · Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject:

Dont I need to pick the new tranny before I can choose a flywheel?

alloy · Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject:

Before you assemble that new engine check your oil pump. I'm assuming you are putting a new one in. There have been some failures of Melling pumps where the pump broke completely off where the mount is. And it seems several manufactures are supplying the Melling M55 pump. I got one in a sealed power box, and others are also supplying them.

I have a stack of parts for my new motor and when I read about this I checked and sure enough I had one of the bad ones. Here is a thread at godragracing.com about this.

http://forums.godragracing.com/viewtopic.php?t=36095

Melling included a disclaimer in the box with my pump. It reads:

"Any high performance application especially those with using solid motor mounts require the installation of an M Select performance oil pump".

Here are a few pics of the standard M55 and a M55HV side by side. It's easy to tell the difference between the two. Yes I realize one is an HV pump, and the other isn't. But it's the extra bracing I'm referring to.

chevymad · Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject:

Jeg's sells the old style pump, made with better iron and with a 55psi spring under their name brand. It's low price too, not sure if summits is the same or not. Melling still makes the good pump, but I hear that now its $80 instead of the old $18. I used the Jeg's pump in my truck build, and now that it has good bearings I have 80psi cold and 40 hot idle. About 60 all the time while driving.

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alloy · Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject:

Well the pump on the left is the one going into my new engine. I'm not taking any chances on something that could destroy my new engine after putting major time and $$$ into it. You can go cheap on some things, but in my humble opinion an oil pump is not something to skimp on.

chevymad · Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject:

Twilightoptics

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