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fiveoformula Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: cams! |
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anyone know what the specs are on the stock LO3 cam?
how about a replacement that would be smog legal?
im doing a timing chain pretty soon and since im in the area i thought id get some info on cams  _________________
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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My cam is 206/216 .447 .447 112/106
The LO3 cam is a JOKE. The specs are something pathetic like 172/178. I think it is the smallest cam to be put in a production small block, lol.
an LT1 or L98 cam is a nice upgrade, and much cheaper than than getting an aftermarket cam.
IMPORTANT NOTE: When you change the cam in these motors, you must do a customer computer tune. it will never run right without doing the work to tune it. TBI's are a speed density setup, so the computers configuration is very important to get it to run right. If you aren't willing to put in the time to learn how to tune it, don't mess with the cam.
--John _________________
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fiveoformula Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Dewey316 wrote: | My cam is 206/216 .447 .447 112/106
The LO3 cam is a JOKE. The specs are something pathetic like 172/178. I think it is the smallest cam to be put in a production small block, lol.
an LT1 or L98 cam is a nice upgrade, and much cheaper than than getting an aftermarket cam.
IMPORTANT NOTE: When you change the cam in these motors, you must do a customer computer tune. it will never run right without doing the work to tune it. TBI's are a speed density setup, so the computers configuration is very important to get it to run right. If you aren't willing to put in the time to learn how to tune it, don't mess with the cam.
--John |
sure how would i go about tuning it?
and does anyone sell an l98 or lt1 cam new? or would i have to get a used one? would i need lifters? _________________
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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you can probably find an LT1 cam fairly cheap on like Ebay or something.
Maybe one of the crewbies might have an extra one sitting around?
Might think about getting a chip burning program like Burn1 or Moats or something.
I've never had to mess with chip tuning, so I'm afraid I can't help much. _________________
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fiveoformula Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Quasi-Traction wrote: | you can probably find an LT1 cam fairly cheap on like Ebay or something.
Maybe one of the crewbies might have an extra one sitting around?
Might think about getting a chip burning program like Burn1 or Moats or something.
I've never had to mess with chip tuning, so I'm afraid I can't help much. |
hmm is there anything i can look up on line about chip burning _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Read the DIY prom board on TGO. If you can swing the money, RBob's EBL is the way to go. You just need the EBL board, and a laptop.
http://www.dynamicefi.com/
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aaron_sK Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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TGO has tons of info, but you'll have to search for it. Moates.net sells burners and chips.
*Edit: got ninja'd. |
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blue89 Member

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fiveoformula Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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wow im a tad overwhelmed... not that im shuting out the idea
im guessing there isnt like a chip you can buy that would already be calibrated _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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No, there isn't one you can buy. You'll need to make something. the dynamicefi stuff is really sweet, for around $400, it will do any tuning you can ever dream of!
Where are you located at? If you are willing to learn, and put in the time, there are several of us who have tuned cars, we can sure help you out, but we aren't a tuning service, you'll have to put in time and effort, but we can show you how to do it. |
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fiveoformula Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Dewey316 wrote: | No, there isn't one you can buy. You'll need to make something. the dynamicefi stuff is really sweet, for around $400, it will do any tuning you can ever dream of!
Where are you located at? If you are willing to learn, and put in the time, there are several of us who have tuned cars, we can sure help you out, but we aren't a tuning service, you'll have to put in time and effort, but we can show you how to do it. |
man i cant tell you how awesome that would be im in the portland/hillsboro area, id definetly be up for that.
where abouts are you? _________________
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blue89 Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Dude, you unknownly live in the Camaro tuning MECCA!
Fill out the rest of your profile so we know more about you. |
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in Gresham. If you do it, it wouldn't be too big of an issue to figure out how to get you going.
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fiveoformula Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| blue89 wrote: | Dude, you unknownly live in the Camaro tuning MECCA!
Fill out the rest of your profile so we know more about you. |
will do, does that make you and Dewey allah I bow down to your V6 car and Deweys TBI car _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Nope. I'm the Dewey-Lama
I think Allah would be Mangus. Maybe Blue and/or Twilightoptics would be Muhamid?? |
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fiveoformula Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Dewey316 wrote: | I'm in Gresham. If you do it, it wouldn't be too big of an issue to figure out how to get you going.
--John |
that would be awsome, theres probly a thing or 2 i could tune without tearing into the motor huh? _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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I picked up almost a full second on my car, with just tuning the computer when the motor was still stock.
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fiveoformula Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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a second??!! what exactly did you do? _________________
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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bone stock done to the airbox, running at 210 degrees my car ran a 16.7 _________________
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