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steven23 Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Klamath Falls,Oregon!
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: Adjusted my detent cable,now it shifts kinda weird... |
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Hi everybody! Yesterday before work I reset that detent cable thingy cause it was shifting a little soon (but smooth). Well now it seems the transmission doesnt wanna shift like it should. I'll have to speed up and let off and then I'll get a *pause* and it'll shift hard in to the next gear. Before when just cruising at say,35-45mph it would down shift to a hair over 1k but now its around 2.5k at 25mph or so and I'll have to speed up and let off to get it to down shift (jerks my noggin back ). Also,I get clunks... When in park if I go to reverse or to drive again comes the *pause* then a clunk that will sometimes shake the car lightly....
Considering how low of rpm's it would run after shifting through the gears at pretty much all speeds is it possible that I was somehow hitting OD while in drive? Cause now it seems like I have less gears and harder shifting.... I dont get it .
Is my tranny on its way out or what?.... Fluid is a nice clean red if that helps (I know nothing about transmissions). 2.8 w/ 700HR I think its called @136k now.
Thanks . _________________ 89 Firebird 2.8 (white)
88 Tbird Turbo coupe 2.3 Turbo@18psi (blue) |
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BigDaddyVu 12sec Club
Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 1118 Location: Spokane, Wa
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:20 am Post subject: |
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mine does that when its warm. but its fine when its cold. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5304 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:45 am Post subject: |
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i can't help with your issue, but i can help you on your termonology.
the transmission is called a TH700r4. it satands for Turbo Hydromatic 700 Reverse 4 forward speeds. i don't know what the 700 means.
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actualy i do have an idea about how to fix it. five speed swap _________________ 86' firebird (Junked in 2015). 88' GTA (sold in 2020).
aaron_sK wrote: | Hell, Tony drove his GTA to Cows a few years back with the pickup coil that came out in pieces. |
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Sellmanb Member
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 727 Location: Tigard, OR
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: |
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It sounds like you dont have enough tension on the TV cable (it's not a detent ). If you tighten it up some it'll raise the transmission line pressures, so it can shift into the next gears, as opposed to it just slipping around everywhere.
The TV cable shouldnt be used to adjust shift points |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Xophertony wrote: | i can't help with your issue, but i can help you on your termonology.
the transmission is called a TH700r4. it satands for Turbo Hydromatic 700 Reverse 4 forward speeds. i don't know what the 700 means.
EDIT*
actualy i do have an idea about how to fix it. five speed swap |
I don't know why they picked 700. Typically with The TH350 and TH400, the numerical designated the amount of Ft/Lbs torque the transmission could handle in stock form. _________________
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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As I understood the th350/400 designations, the th350 was for 350 and smaller engines. The th400 was 400cid and up. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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The proper way to adjust the cable is to press the lever in and pull the piece all the way back as far as it will go. Then turn the throttle to WOT and it will ratchet to proper position. |
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steven23 Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Klamath Falls,Oregon!
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Wow... I didnt expect this many replies so soon. It's funny you mention that Tony,Rod and I were talking about a 5 speed swap (but my schedule is sooo hectic right now ). And Twilight,thats exactly how I did it (and have done it before which is why it suprized me this time). It shifts nothing like any automatic I've driven which is why I was wondering. I was told these transmissions are pretty durable (especially behind a 2. so I wont worry about it.
So technically I only have 3 gears while in drive but only 4 in overdrive? Either way its not as good as five huh? Thank you for explaining it to me. I always ponder what the letters and numbers mean when describing transmissions.
I'm gunna try tinkering with it today or tomorrow and see what happens after that. Or beat the hell out of it and see what happens lol.
Thanks everybody! _________________ 89 Firebird 2.8 (white)
88 Tbird Turbo coupe 2.3 Turbo@18psi (blue) |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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steven23 wrote: |
So technically I only have 3 gears while in drive but only 4 in overdrive? Either way its not as good as five huh? Thank you for explaining it to me. I always ponder what the letters and numbers mean when describing transmissions. |
you technically have 4 with overdrive, and the lockup of the converter acts as kind of like a psudo 5th gear. the "3" position on your shifter is your actual 1:1 gear. _________________
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blue89 Member
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:48 am Post subject: |
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WC T5 700r4
2.95 3.06
1.94 1.63
1.34 1
1 0.78
0.74 0.7
On my V6 I actually run the TV cable disconnected. It shifts hard especially with the billet 1-2 gear servo thing. Why I do it is so it doesn't downshift on me if I'm powering through a corner.
You may have to reset the cable a couple of times before you get it just right. All my encounters with it seem to suggest that.
If you pull the ratcheting extender piece out more, it will take more pedal for it to downshift, but it will do it softer. |
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redlava Member
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 448 Location: Bremerton
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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I dunno if you are adjusting it correctly but you are supposed to push the tv cable into it smallest possition and then go full throttle it will require good amount of force to get the cable to adjust. This should set it correctly. |
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steven23 Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Klamath Falls,Oregon!
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Well I think I found the problem....
Can I just pull the wire out a little and secure it somehow or can this piece be replaced?
Thanks. _________________ 89 Firebird 2.8 (white)
88 Tbird Turbo coupe 2.3 Turbo@18psi (blue) |
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blue89 Member
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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steven23 Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Klamath Falls,Oregon!
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ok,doesnt seem like it'd be that hard to replace but just to be sure this is the "transmission shift cable" and not the "detent cable" correct?
Thanks.
Edit: I think I'm wrong here,finally found my Haynes manual and its showing the throttle valve (tv) cable and all that... But a parts site I'm at is only showing either the tranny shift cable or the detent cable.... _________________ 89 Firebird 2.8 (white)
88 Tbird Turbo coupe 2.3 Turbo@18psi (blue)
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83Z28BlackBetty Bam-Ba-Lam
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 2083 Location: Aloha
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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i may have one if you need a new one.
~JAKE |
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blue89 Member
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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All it means is you have to shift for it. I like it like that, but I guess I'm a little different.
That is the detent cable. Its not bad to replace. There's a 10mm bolt on the tranny that holds the cable down, and then the snap fitting on the top. I would advise against using a parts store brand as sometimes they don't fit right at all. Go GM, new or used. |
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steven23 Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Klamath Falls,Oregon!
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Called GM and it'll be $31.30 and they'd have to order it.... So Jake,how much for yours?
Thanks. _________________ 89 Firebird 2.8 (white)
88 Tbird Turbo coupe 2.3 Turbo@18psi (blue) |
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