Cascade Crew

[BigDaddyVu]

who in here has installed a t-56 in there 3rd gen

[RSFreak]

Talk to Ian...

[Al Hasse]

Also Twilightoptics. I'm sure there might be more. I'm wanting to do that with my 89 in the near (?) future.

[BigDaddyVu]

the t-56 is out of a 97 ss camaro. drive line, cross member, and bellhousing is what came with it. what parts do i need to mate it to the engine

[Al Hasse]

Since I've been toying with the idea, I've done a little research on the internet and came across this article among others http://sethirdgen.org/t56.htm

Not something I want to tackle on my own, but just looking for stuff I need and can re-use.

[iansane]

A fancy spoooooooooohhhhnnn xmember.

Or make your own, not that difficult. There's also a guy on tg.o that builds 'em with humps to tuck up long tubes.

Is yours a stick or auto right now? Did you reuse the 305 starter when you swapped to the 350?

If auto, you'll need either 3rd or 4thgen pedals, you'll also need 4thgen slave and either 3rd/4th master cylinder.

You're going to have an issue with the speed sensor. The t56 is electronic and yours should be cable driven. So either swap to a newer 90-92 camaro guage cluster, buy one of those converter boxes, or mount up some autometers in your cluster.

Other than that, it'll bolt right up. I reused my stock starter, but that's because the typical 305 starter is smaller than the standard 350 starter.


Driveline is the same length if you go with the stock bellhousing.

A new clutch is going to be pricey though. Stockers go for at least $250.

Oh yeah, then have fun banging gears!

[305 302eater]

I have also converted my car from a 700r to a lt1t56 if your car was a auto you will have to do some hole cutting and if you can i recomend using the third gen pedals rather then forth gen. I had forth gen pedals and i could never get them to mount right for me. I got my cross member from here www.skulte.com. It has worked fine for me. I would recomend getting a roller pilot bearing they are awesome and will last a lot longer then the bushing style. But ya have fun installing the trany man i know i did. And as ian said have fun banging gears!

[iansane]

I've had both sets of pedals and I liked the 4thgen ones I've got now.

Besides, they were brand new and cheap.

I've also heard mixed about the pilot bushing/bearing debate. I'm running a bushing and everytime I've pulled the trans it's pretty torn up.

[aaron_sK]

There are any number of good resources on this swap out there BigDaddy:

http://www.skulte.com/T56.html

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/faq-board/229205-t56-swap-answers-questions.html

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/transmissions-drivetrain/342751-t56-scatter-shield-2piece.html

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/transmissions-drivetrain/342588-one-more-t5-t56.html?highlight=ls1+t56

http://www.sethirdgen.org/t56.htm

http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=126/prd126.htm

Right now I've got about two grand total set aside for the swap and the other stuff the car needs, and I'm currently hunting down all the parts. I do have a question I'll throw out there to the guys who have already done this.

For the clutch: I still have the bolt-on L98 in my IROC pushing at most 240hp/340ft at the fly. It's also my daily (when it's running) so I neither want nor really need an overkill clutch that's going to grab and chatter in traffic, or cost me 1100 smackers. Any recommendations, or should I just pick up a stocker LT1 or LT4 clutch?

[BigDaddyVu]

i read the article. the flywheel i have a 72 block is the flywheel going to be an after market or what what make and model should i look for.

[BigDaddyVu]

ok so i have to used a centerforce flywheel for my block.

[aaron_sK]

[iansane]

Last time I looked for that 2 pc RMS flywheel cheapest I could find it was $390.

[Twilightoptics]

I'm running an LS1 T56

[Xophertony]

i am running a centerforce dual friction (90% more holding power then stock acording to centerforce) on my 240HP l98. it holds solid (never had it slip, even on the canada cruise when smoke was ouring out of amorgetRS's car at every shift) and it is nice to drive on the street. the car does see daily use.

[305 302eater]

I'm running a bushing and everytime I've pulled the trans it's pretty torn up.[/quote]

From what I've been told the pilot bearing can really save your trany compared to a bushing. I figured I would put one in. They are only like 11 or 12 dollars from summit.

[Dewey316]

I didn't know you could even get bushings anymore, I am pretty sure that GM is only selling bearings now. Maybe you can still get bushings in the aftermarket.

[305 302eater]

[Twilightoptics]

[Twilightoptics]

Got a little off track in my last reply lol so:

For your LT1 style stuff.

You'll need a 2 piece LT1 Style flywheel. I saw them for $300. Centerforce makes one.

You'll need the pedals/hydraulics like Ian said.

You'll need a Pilot bushing of some sort. I don't know if you need an extended one or a standard one. Might want to measure.

You'll need a LT1 Style Clutch.
Specclutch.com
Stage 1 Stage 2 Stage 2+ Stage 3 Stage 3+ Stage 4 Stage 5 None
Product Number: SC421 SC422 SC423H SC423 SC423F SC424 SC425
Torque Capacity: 480 560 620 690 800 690 1050
Pricing: $399 $499 $591 $539 $688 $559 $639
Centerforce is cheaper, but like I said, I've heard problems.

I love my spec 3. I've gone through 2 axle shafts and a ring and pinion on slick and the clutch holds strong!