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pathology knight
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: which is better.... Reply with quote

just for fun, i was wondering what's the better car:
trans am or camaro? Confused pontiac vs chevy. Cool

try to be factual here. Wink
just based on factory specs and options, no aftermarket add ons, or special edition "one of kind" cars, what's the best third gen?

lets try not to argue Smashy Smashy ....

i ask because there seem to be a lot of different options and trim packages available for these cars.
firebirds, se, trans am, formula, gta, rs, iroc, etc.......

what do you guy think?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris and i came to the conclusion the other day that if you are going for pure performance.... TTA all the way. however he also mentioned that was ONLY because the "ZR1" heritage edition anniversary Camaro was never released to the general public. to wit i replied ... Very Happy

if you discount the TTA because it uses a Buick power plant then the firehawk.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take dz302 z/28 for $1000 alex.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats a zz302 z28??
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant dz, typed in a hurry, lol.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dewey316 wrote:
I meant dz, typed in a hurry, lol.

I'm with you John Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xophertony wrote:
whats a zz302 z28??


I had a DZ motor..........it was crazy fast in my 55 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xophertony wrote:
whats a zz302 z28??


Someone educate this poor lost soul. Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing everyone knows what that is even the mustang owners know. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, what is a DZ? was it factory in thirdgens? if not it does not count. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, it was an option on 69 z/28's.

I'm just saying...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh.. well in that case, an LS6 powered formula. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When did a formula ever leave the factory with an LS6? As close as I am aware, the only thing close was some 01-02 cars, that got LS6 intakes, but never the full LS6 treatment.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

Tony Make Dylan Laugh.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dewey316 wrote:
When did a formula ever leave the factory with an LS6? As close as I am aware, the only thing close was some 01-02 cars, that got LS6 intakes, but never the full LS6 treatment.


i'm sorry i though we aere talking about thirdgens. which never left the factory with an LS6 or a DZ302 Very Happy i'll shut up about it now.

EDIT**

i found an article that was a comparison test between the GT Mustang, IROC Camaro and Trans-AM GTA Firebird.


the GTA was faster but ONLY becasue the magazine tested the cars at "base" trim (base for IROC and GTA that is) and the IROCs 3.27 rear end was an option, where as it was the ONLY rear put in a GTA. had the IROC been equiped with the same rearend its additional 5HP and 300 pound lighter body would have made it the winner of the race.

the article is mostly about which car is more fun to drive though. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TTA....is that a touring trans am? Confused

other than that, the '69 z/28 doesn't count, nor does the LS6.

let's keep it to 3rd gens.

other than "beef" under the hood, what about other options?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The TTA is the turbo trans-am, it had a 3.8L Turbo 6cyl. they are bloody fast.

I am partial to the Camaro with GFX's but I do like the GTA's.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Camaro and Firebird are the same car. The only difference between them is cosmetic and interior trim features. So the question of which one is better is simply a matter of preference.

The only exception is the '89 turbo Trans Am (TTA) with the 3.8L Buick turbo engine. I guess another exception is the SLP built Firehawk sold through dealerships. Hmmm.... I guess the Firebird was a better car. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go Firebird Go!! Rock on!

i know there are a lot of different trim packages.
what's the difference?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should i repost the knight rider scene?
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