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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: Whats the first thing you do when your car is totalled? |
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Buy more stereo equipment!!!
Pyle 4x6s and 4" rounds.. 20oz magnets on em.. little monsters.
As compared to my old pioneers...
Installed in the factory positions..
Then I took my Audiobahn 4x6 plates and mounted them in the dashboard.. Took a little bit of work with my roto-tool on the drivers side. But it finally fit..
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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I like it. Looks real similar to what I did on my sail panel I have a 6" coax and a 4" coax MB Quart in each one. Tight fit wasn't it?
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Think the 6 and the 4 are better than 6x9? |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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The 4x6 and 4" are the way my car came. I had the optional factory subwoofer. You can even see the box is ported. So these speakers fit the factory holes. Though the hole the 4" is in actually is for a gm hybrid speaker.. weird oddball size.. 5 1/4" speakers don't fit and the hole is actually a bit big for a 4".
And I do see you're talking to Al. Normally round speakers have a bit higher sound quality then oblongs. |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | | Think the 6 and the 4 are better than 6x9? |
If the speakers are wired parallel, which mine are, it doubles the power output of the amp (also makes the amp work harder) therefor there is more volume. It can work the other way too if the speakers are wired in series and it will half the power output.
My front channel is done similar because I have the dash speakers as well as kick panel speakers. |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| What Al brings up is something I'm debating with now. I've got 3 pairs of speakers... and an amp that will handle 2 ohms.. If I hook them all in parallel, I end up with 1.3 ohms.. maybe the punch would handle that.. probably not. If I hook 2 pair in parallel and the 3d in series then I end up with 6ohms.. so I wont have as much wattage. If I had one more pair then I could get everything back to 4ohms anyway. |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey Al, how's this scenario work. What if I parallel 2 pair for 2 ohms.. and then series the 4" mono for 8, and hook them in bridged on my mosfet amp? What's that end up with? |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Is this all on one amp? 2 channel? 4 channel? Bridging is normally for subs, I don't know if the 4" can handle that. |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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All those small speakers are on one amp. My big box with the 10s will be on another amp. Both are 2 or 3 channel. The Punch 55 will be the small speaker amp. It's 3 channel and can be bridged without crossover. These speakers are rated 90watt rms or 180 peak. The front pair of speakers have their own crossover. The back sets have caps built in. I can also change the output frequency on the amp as well to limit the lows.
I had the larger Patriot amp pulled down to 1 ohm for a few years. It finally fried a transistor which I just recently replaced. Not sure I want to do that with the fosgate amp though. |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Bridge your third set series (to be safe), I'm not sure how the circuitry is in those 2 or 3 channel amps. The bridged output is off the same terminals as the right/left channels (positive from one - negative from the other), am I right? I'm not positive on what your total ohm load would be, most likely 6 ohm. If I remember, I'll ask a friend and installer some questions this weekend. |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Brandon, I did a little research and found out that your 8 ohm mono load will affect your amp the same as a 4 ohm stereo load. If you wire those speakers parallel (4 ohm mono), the load would be equivalent to 2 ohm stereo, which would also double the power output of the amp to those speakers. I would stick with the 8 ohm mono as mentioned before. |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the research Al. I'll give it a try. Won't be putting the amps in though till after the paint. Going to be awhile before I get to hear it. |
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BigDaddyVu 12sec Club

Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 1118 Location: Spokane, Wa
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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you should run your speakers the same or at least 2 channels or your speakers will be out of phase (harmonic embalence) double check your amp if its a 1 ohm or 2 ohm stable. 1 ohms for odd ohmage if your running 3 subs. 2 ohms for even speakers and series or parallel. _________________
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