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J-Dog-III Member

Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 118 Location: Arlington, WA
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: Help with Little v6 :( |
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So i recently bought a 89 Camaro Rs, my first car. Payed $750 big ones. BAD- Has a oil leak out of the rear main seal, needs paint, needs new passanger fender and front nose peice. It was the 2.8l V6 and i was lookin at getting a cold air intake, but i cant find one. I've seen some picutes of ones people have made, but my friend has a 91 3.1L v6 with a K&N CAI. If i have to make one, what am i gonna need and what kinda proccess? I dont want to put to much money into it thought, cuz i really just wanna get back and forth to school-work-home. Or should i fix it up a lil sell it for a grand and put a little money towards a Camaro with a 305 with T-tops?
Im in arlington washington, kinda way out there, but i guess i could use a mentor of some sort with my car. Im not tottally stupid, but i could use some help with replacing the rear main seal ( i know it's gonna take a while ) But i was also thinking instead of seperating the motor and tranny, y not just pull the v6 and put a v8 in? |
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izcain 9sec Club
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1306 Location: Port Angeles WA
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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I guess it would all depend on what your going after..... Myself, I would do a lil fixin and some lovin and sell her for a lil more and put the money towards a better "base". I dont know if it is true or not since I have not had a V-6 third gen but have helped swap others and it was more of a PITA then just having a V-8 car already. _________________
1983 Z28 383 + 201ci more = New Heart for this season!
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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IMHO, our cars really aren't worth all that much. You can pick up a pretty good V8 car, for under $2k. I don't think it is worth the headache of trying to swap into a V6 car.
Unless you are really attached to this car, I would fix the leak, get her running good, and maybe do some minor body work yourself, and sell it off to buy a V8 car. |
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J-Dog-III Member

Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 118 Location: Arlington, WA
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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I've already bought a new fender (purple) for 20 bucks and sanded it down. Just gotta get it primered and maybe just maybe rattle can it to match the rest of the car. Im a little attatched to it, but im willing to severe it for sum t-tops I've constantly been checking craigslist for a car, but always come up a little to late and they end up being sold. I guess i'll be shooting for givin the car a little lovin, cuz i like working on stuff and it would give me something to do, and soon get a v8 base car |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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welcome to the boards! make a post in the back porch and tell us about yourself.
i agree with dewey on the engine swap.
as far as a cold air intake goes, you can get all the supplies (other then the K&N) for 15$ at your local Home Depot.
here is a photo of mine. the rubber boot is stock, then you have a 90* elbow with NO FLANGE on one side, connecting to a
piece of 3" PVC pipe, (cut to length), then to a rubber but connector (also available in plumming section) and then
the stock MAF and a 3" K&N
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izcain 9sec Club
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1306 Location: Port Angeles WA
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Nice TGO sticker  _________________
1983 Z28 383 + 201ci more = New Heart for this season!
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks. i keep a cascade crew sticker on the outside of the car. |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: |
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well... IMO, if you want to make it run, the rear main is no problem. Pull the tranny, take off the flexplate, replace seal. You don't even have to pull the tranny completely out from under the car to do that. If you need help or a walk through, just ask.
If you want more power.... good luck. The biggest restriction with that motor is the intake. If you want to keep the V6, find a 3.4L to put in there. Cheapish, straight forward swap. Way more power. I would not replace it with a V8. Way more than you want to get into. Fix the 6, sell, buy a V8 car. To swap it, you need ECM, Harness, Fuel pump, fuel lines, motor mounts, engine, tranny, blah blah blah. Too much time, money, and bloody knuckles. _________________ E30
86 RS - 7.4L V8 SOLD
89 RS - 3.25L V6 REMOVED
89 RS - 5.7L LT1 SOLD
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83Z28BlackBetty Bam-Ba-Lam

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 2083 Location: Aloha
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Dewey316 wrote: | | IMHO, our cars really aren't worth all that much. You can pick up a pretty good V8 car, for under $2k. I don't think it is worth the headache of trying to swap into a V6 car. |
Just because your car isn't worth that much diesn't mean you have to down play what the rest of us got jk jk
I agree with Dewey, a solit v8 base car isn't that much and not all that hard to track down. I picked mine up for $2500 and in hindsight maybe a little more than it was worth but thats all over with. Then once you get your v8 car you can turn wrenches and bloody up those knuckles. Trust me you will have enough work to do.
~JAKE _________________ 1983 Z-28 5.7 LT1, T56, Headman headers, BW 9 Bolt Posi Disc, WS6 suspension
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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You could just pull a Tony: V6 daily, V8 fun money-waster. When I get my IROC running again I think I'm going to go more that way myself. Gas bill gets up there pretty far with that L98.  |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Asdfga3 wrote: | You could just pull a Tony: V6 daily, V8 fun money-waster. When I get my IROC running again I think I'm going to go more that way myself. Gas bill gets up there pretty far with that L98.  |
That's the way I'm headed, now that I have the V8 car to play with  _________________ 92 Camaro
89 Camaro
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J-Dog-III Member

Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 118 Location: Arlington, WA
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Yah, some help and walkthrought would be nice. My dad has intention on helping me with anything on my car...so kinda outta luck with his help- even though he has a half restored 69 Charger sitting in our garage... |
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J-Dog-III Member

Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 118 Location: Arlington, WA
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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We'll i found this:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/219380994.html
-3.8L v6 from an 89. So would i be able to easily just drop this right in and just use all the old wiring and stuff? I dunno but i think this might b a 2.8 not a 3... |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Al Hasse wrote: | | Asdfga3 wrote: | You could just pull a Tony: V6 daily, V8 fun money-waster. When I get my IROC running again I think I'm going to go more that way myself. Gas bill gets up there pretty far with that L98.  |
That's the way I'm headed, now that I have the V8 car to play with  |
The problem is that every time now when I pull up alongside anything vaugly fast in my POS Ford, I could kick myself for not having my IROC.
| Quote: | | Yah, some help and walkthrought would be nice. My dad has intention on helping me with anything on my car...so kinda outta luck with his help- even though he has a half restored 69 Charger sitting in our garage... |
Search around TGO a bit. I know their search feature sucks ass, but I'm sure someone's done a rear main on a 2.8 before. Like blue said, it's not the worst thing in the world. |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Think you're right, that's a typo. I don't think the F-body got the 3.8 until the 4th gens came out, but 3rd gens don't have them. |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, I'm headed along the tony path..........I'm looking for a 3rd gen for daily transportation, so I can get rid of my fairlane....I'd prefer a decent V6, with minimal options. _________________
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe I'm weird but I'd rather DD my bird and then have a beater POS just incase the bird breaks and I HAVE to drive it... _________________
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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well, when you average as many miles as i do (which is odd since i have NO job and don't currently go to school) 18-23MPG is not cool. and when a simple job like installing a new prop valve puts your car down for 5 days you will be glad you have two cars. that fact that both of mine are fbodys is a bonus.
besides it frees me up to do mods i KNOW will put one out of commission for a few days. like tering out and re-running half of the engine wire harness, or swapping a trannsmission. or hell, at the rate i fix things.. replacing windshield wipers
anyway, in closing...
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Xophertony wrote: | | well, when you average as many miles as i do (which is odd since i have NO job and don't currently go to school) 18-23MPG is not cool. |
I bought my 91 almost three years ago (this december) and even with it being out of commission a large portion of that time due to the 6speed swap and misc small repairs/mods I've still put close to 80k on it. I'm funny like that, I just don't mind paying for it. I would love to get better, but not by driving another car. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| Al Hasse wrote: |
Think you're right, that's a typo. I don't think the F-body got the 3.8 until the 4th gens came out, but 3rd gens don't have them. |
That ad is a joke:
| Quote: | Chevy engine, 1989, V-6, 3.8 - $400
From Camaro SS, all pullys and alternater, tune port injection, 75,000 miles. No trades and no delivery. 253-509-0218 eves. 253-380-5491 cell. |
1) 89 = 2.8, not 3.8
2) IIRC SS never got a V6, and the SS didn't come back till the LT1 era cars. They most likely mean RS.
3) V6's got MPFI, not TPI.
As long as the engine is in top shape, it might be worth it if you really need the complete swap, but most people go for at least the 3.1L. |
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