Cascade Crew

[scott in wa.]

Just a note real quick.
more later.
All runs bad
1st run 14.55
R/T 3.45
He was looking some where else when the light turned green.

2nd run
15.0
R/T 1.5
Still not paying attention and missed a shift & car over heating
(only one fan working)

3rd run race time
D/T 14.5 On window, race time
(I figured somthing would go wrong so I put the hight time)
14.46
R/T 1.2
He broke out. by .04 end of night.

Spins those 12 inch wide tire just fine. nothing broke yet

so far fastest run was 97mph.
If he gets his r/t better it will run 13's I hope
The r/t is included in the run time right????? how does that work?

Had him shift at 5,500

HAD A BLAST....200 CARS OR SO
fun fun fun....
got to do again.
scott

[Xophertony]

what does "he broke out" mean? is that like "he improved by.." or somthing.

[aaron_sK]

Bracket racing. It means you "misunderestimated" your car, and ran below your set time.

[Nathan J]

his reaction time means nothen to the run in bracket racing, his time does not start till he breaks the beam so he can sit there all day. what was his 60 ft times? im going to guess a 2.00+??

[scott in wa.]

So the R/T time isn't included into his overall time it takes to do the 1/4 mile????

He could sit there all day and have a 20 sec r/t time?
and still run a 14.0 ???
scott

[Nathan J]

ya the r/t really means nothing, he can sit there forever, but you always want a quick r/t , now in heads up drag racing r/t means everything, now what was his 60foot times? if it was 2.00 and you guys can get it down to lets say 1.99 he will see about 3-4 tenths overall in the 1/4 time, 60 foots are everything... =] so what where they

Nathan

[Twilightoptics]

All that matters is crossing the finish line before the other car.

If you qualify at 15 seconds and Dial in 15, and your opponent dials in a 20 seconds... the other guy will get a 5 second exactly head start.

That if both vehicles trip the clock at the same time off the starting-line, they will reach the finish line at the same time given their dial ins.

If you leave the line with a .25 reaction time, and he leaves with a .50 reaction time... if you both run your dial in.. you'll beat him to the finish line by .25.

If you go 14.99 and he goes 20.... and you beat him across the line... you broke out and lost. You can't run faster than you say you're going to run.

Your time doesn't start until the pre stage/stages light beams are released by your tires. So once you roll past the stage light... you're time starts.

You can do what they call "deep stage" to get a little closer and lower your reaction time by rolling into the lights... and creep forward until the pre stage light goes out. Just don't roll any farther or you'll foul/red-light.

[Xophertony]

wait... so after the two yellow lights are both lit you can go a little further until the first light goes out? is this just in brackets or is it in regular drags too?

[aaron_sK]

[Twilightoptics]

All bracket racing means... is that you "guess" how fast you're going to go... and the person you race against has a head start, or waits for you to go... as I stated earlier.

Heads up means both cars go at the same time.

A Sportsman tree... has the amber lights (not the staging lights) light up one at a time until green like we see at PIR.

A Pro tree... after both cars are staged, all 3 ambers come on before the grene.

There are sub catagories to that.. or used to be... It USED to be that there was .400 or .500 (depending on the class) between the last amber and the green light. So a perfect reaction time would be .400 or .500 respectively. This is why you leave before the green, because your time doesn't trip until you release the stage light.

NOW a perfect light is .00. So they took the .4/.5 out of the readout and just added time to the top of that.

[scott in wa.]

oK,
We are rookies.
Iam confused
so the r/t time isn't in the over 1/4 mile time?
We staged two amber lights, then the tree goes.
When it gets to the last yellow before the green ya mash the gas pedal.
Just wondering when you are racing,

If you sat there for say 5 seconds after it turns green, is that in the over all 1/4 mile time.

Sorry for all the stupid questions.
Scott

[Twilightoptics]

Your ET does not start until the staging lights go out (when your tire rolls out of the beamway).

So yes, you can sit there for 20 seconds and your ET wont change.

Now if you lurch and kill it with a stick... you'll have rolled out of the beams and your time will start, but the car wont be moving.

[Xophertony]

just so everyone is clear, paul.. that is JUST for bracket racing, not head to head right?

[Dewey316]

No, that is for all racing. Your ET doesn't start until you break the lights. In both bracket racing, and heads up, the guy at the end first, wins. But, your ET doesn't start counting until you leave.

[Xophertony]

hmmm... cool. so the E/T is more about how fast the car is and less about how attention deficit the driver is. (provided you don't break traction)

[Quasi-Traction]

[Twilightoptics]

It can help yes, but alot of the time people get more anxious when deep staged, and it's very easy to roll out of the beam and trip the redlight.

John's right... all these rules are for bracket and heads up. The different matching methods and tree types are the difference in bracket racing and heads up.

When you raced at PIR Tony it was heads up with a sportsman tree. If it was bracket racing... you'd make several heads up runs... then when eliminations start you'd write on your window what you think your call will run, and they'll give you a headstart, or handicap the other car based on that. First one to the line wins without going faster than they stated.

[83Z28BlackBetty]

i think i get it... i think

[Nathan J]

ya sorry i was not trying to tell you r/t didnt matter, it does i was just trying to tell you it means nothen to the overall e/t hehe