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scott in wa.
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1988 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:23 am    Post subject: New Car?? need your help. ASAP Reply with quote

Ok Iam looking at another car tonight.
I would like to know how I tell by the vin number if its a z or an Iroc. RS ???
Got to be some number designation.????
Also its a convertible so What do I look for, or look, at as far as the top goes?
Its a 88 I think its a clone Iroc, doesn't matter that it is or isn't but there has to be some points about a convertible that Iam not aware of. If it was an RS maybe it had a v6 originaly, now its a 305, non tpi

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could still be an IROC. In 88 the TBI 305 was the base IROC engine. The 7th digit of the VIN will tell you what engine it had stock, I am not aware of a way to tell what model it was from just the vin number.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RPO sheet in the console will tell you, just make sure to check the VIN on the RPO sheet with the VIN on the car.

I think B4C was the IROC package and of course look for Z28.
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scott in wa.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:41 am    Post subject: cool Reply with quote

Keep it coming I need all the info I can before I go today.

Is there a web page that will explaine and sho a vin number and each definition????

Also what about rear wheel disk ??? was that on option? or was it standard????

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scott & son
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott,
Thirdgen.org has a vin decoder and RPO decoder. There are links from the main page (www.thirdgen.org). There is also an FAQ that may provide some answers.

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scott in wa.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:48 am    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

Looks like there vin de coder is down. But I found it some where else.
thanks
The rear disk must have been a option but can't seem to find any info yet.
thanks
scott

I think I found it, 1LE Package.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dewey316 wrote:
It could still be an IROC. In 88 the TBI 305 was the base IROC engine. The 7th digit of the VIN will tell you what engine it had stock, I am not aware of a way to tell what model it was from just the vin number.
I thought the LB9 was base... don't recall IROC's with a non-TPI engine unless you count the handfulls of L69's running amok ... even then I think those were still designated as Z28's ...

Shrug it's been awhile though

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was for the most part. But in 88 the LO3 was the base motor. We went thru this when Lance bought the orange 88 IROC. After doing enough research we found out, that could get an 88 IROC's.

Rodney, the B4C option is not for IROC's. B4C was the police package, it was the TPI 350/A4 with 1LE brakes, but is badged as an RS.
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scott in wa.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: convertible Reply with quote

Hey where Is iansane, I want to here some Convertible WOESSSSSSS.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8th vin Digit

It's VERY unlikely that the Vert was TBI in 88 originally. But it's possible.

8th vin will tell you the motor it originall came with.

H LG4
7 LU5
E L03 (TBI)
G L69
F LB9 (305 TPI)
8 L98 (350 TPI)
2 LQ9
1 LC1
S LB8
T LH0
7 LC2

Be careful with the RPO codes. Makre sure the code stick in the center console, matches the vin number on the car, before verifying the B4C
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scott in wa.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject: tail lights Reply with quote

So is there some differance in the rear tail light as well??
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: tail lights Reply with quote

scott in wa. wrote:
So is there some differance in the rear tail light as well??
thanks
scott


Yes, from factory, but don't bank on it.

People change taillights to the grid style like crazy.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: convertible Reply with quote

scott in wa. wrote:
Hey where Is iansane, I want to here some Convertible WOESSSSSSS.

Thanks
scott


Laughing I don't have any! My top doesn't leak! Just like t-top cars check the floorboards both front and rear, actually push on the carpet to see if the matting below is water logged. It might take a bit since it's been a few days without rain.

Check the function of the top. A few quirks I've noticed, I think 88 style has what they call "flip rods" if it's an ASC conversion. They are little rods that connect between the cross braces or "bows" to help make sure everything folds back in place. They bend and break easily. Mine were broken when I got it and I just got used to pushing in the right spot (at the second bow) to fold in the right shape. The one time I didn't do that, it broke the new flip rods again. I didn't bother to buy more.

I've also noticed that the front doesn't want to latch in place if you latch the back window in first, you've got to do that last.

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scott in wa.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: cool Reply with quote

Does Snow and rain make it damp in there??? Your car out side?
Is it louder in side as well? Lots colder to I bet ???

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For the info.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well mine's parked in the garage now. When it was outside it was never any wetter than my hardtop once was.

Colder? I guess. It gets colder faster after you leave it but once it warms up it doesn't take so long so heat the passanger compartment because it's actually smaller with the seats up.

Louder? More wind noise, but my seals are pretty messed up so the rear of the doors doesn't seal completely.

TDS I think is soon to be selling replacement weatherstripping kits for the verts.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if its a B4C and it's not wrecked buy it. but i don't know how we got on the B4c train. B4cs are very very very rare. they are "collectable" and are worth more $$ then regular cars. purchasing a B4c is one of the few camaros you can purchase as an "investment". (the bird guys have TTAs and firehawks). however i have NEVER seen or heard of a vert B4C. so i think you are out of luck.

on the vert note. i would deffinatly pull up the carpet a bit and take a look for rust. all you need is a crosspoint screwdriver and five minutes. seller should not object. make sure the top has no cuts. run the garden hose over it to check for leaks, then just the usual camaro stuff. oh, if it's an 88 make sure the power pull down unit works (ASC verts do have them). if finding out what the car is before you buy it is a big deal GM sells original factory invoices (and buildsheets?). i don't know how long it takes to get. mine was e-mailed to me a few years ago. about 3 months after i originaly ordered it. but it was free. now they charge $50. (pontic guys can get next day fax from PHS for 45$). that is the ONLY way to tell if the RPO sheet is missing.

http://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/movies/87asc/camaro1.avi
this is an original tv spot for ASC verts. kinda neat.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xophertony wrote:
make sure the power pull down unit works (ASC verts do have them).


Some.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: vin Reply with quote

1g1fp31e6jl190753

looks pretty good.
Passenger door has a gap on the out side where it aligns with fender.
throttle body
top came loose of the frame right behind the driver door, might be able to fix.
115 mph speed 4500 rpm gage, all are base for iroc.
square shift knob

Doesn't run.
Clean interior, no leeks.
he wants 1,000
Will not budge.
Not an iroc hood, its flat.

its got a wrap around top edge panel that cover edge up to the top , is this right?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

E = L03 (TBI) 5.0 (305) V8 9.3:1 170HP@4000 255LBTQ@2400 auto=3.08 manual=2.73

why does it not run? 1K for a rolling chassis is a bit much. even if it is a vert. Shocked. since it does not run it might as well not have an engine. you all can not test the drivetrain, so that is not there for intensive purposes as its integrety can not be verified. you allso can not verify the integrity of the suspension or steering since you can not test drive the car. 1,000 seems a little high.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

e, not an iroc??
thanks
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